We aren't going round in circles, it would just seem that its your way or no way. We've been there before and it was an absolute disaster Joe said he didn't think the schedule needed changing that much and Ghost compared the staying races to real life where there are fewer. This has been explained due to recovery time. We have also pointed out the 4m4 races in the NH league.

So yes you have got that wrong. You also haven't listened to either what Leon or I have said. And you wont. Because it has to be your way. Going back to what everyone wants I take you've read the threads regarding the schedule from last season and also improvements for this years and taken the main points on board?

As my answers to your statements are taken as personal insults its hard to know what to say really. You constantly avoid the points made but just re-iterate yours over and over again. So I dont know about circles, more like broken record.

Yeah Matt keep believing that.. Suleviae was a G1 winner and Anyigba a G2 so you do the math for a G2 and G3 respectively. As I've stated, the weights make a lot of difference. Yima won all the G1s but with added weight couldn't win a G2/3.

BTW how many Group races did you win at 2m last season? I suppose you were unlucky in those too?

Its just a bit sad now isn't. Andy. Anyigba carried a penalty for winning the Leger. Suleviae carried 9st in the Lonsdale Cup. What penalty did she carry then? Should she have carried 8st? Enlighten me.

I won the Dubai Gold Cup and Ascot Champions Long Distance Cup. Goodwood Cup was unlucky in running, other races beaten by better horses on the day, didn't stay the Doncaster Cup.

Sorry for another personal attack aka correcting your stats.

Well Matt I'm glad to see you're always unlucky. I guess I got all your luck winning all the races I did
Enough Matt.. I'm going to work on the schedule instead of debating with you.. we can continue when the schedule goes up.

I said I was unlucky in ONE race. So why you have changed that I dont know. Its in black and white.

What weight penalty did Suleviae carry in the Lonsdale? You said she carried a weight penalty where is it? Another question you've chose to ignore, like most of mine. You have skillfully deflected it with nonsense about me claiming i was always unlucky?

Who was champion trainer?

Matt I'm not derailing this thread about who was champion trainer . Think what you will. I don't care. As I stated at the start of last season I was looking to win every race I entered. I never cared about prizemoney so well done there to you for using every trick in the book to win that .

I do believe the wins record looks slightly different though and perhaps that's not important to you as you know you never had a chance there .

And I note you haven't commented about the number of races for handicaps at each distance which I posted above? Or are you evading yet another issue?

No im having too much fun laughing. And yes I used every trick in the book. Thanks for the personal attack.

Andy if you actually answered the questions then this would stop very quickly. Do you want to try one at a time?

1.) What weight penalty did Suleviae carry in the Lonsdale Cup?

Thats it just one question.

Simple G1 handicaps aren't group races in my book. Apples/oranges.. it's all perspective nor do I count 16.5 as 16f I guess.

You're right no one person in the racing world would consider the Henry Stakes a 2m race. Damn it you've got me again. You're just too smart.

But we still had five 2m races, one 2m.5f race and one 2m G1 handicap. None of that adds up to four im afraid.

I thought I had posted this but looking back I haven't. Perhaps this will show why I think 2m+ handicaps need cutting back.

As you can see if you want to redress the balance Leon then I think there are too many of them.