Correct me if I am wrong but even when there wasn't a transfer system there has always been one/two trainers who have the best horses.

The underlying issue isn't whether there is a transfer system or not. It's a question of whether the breeding system allows you to breed better horses and how random that is. As long as you have some system which allows better horses to be bred, there will always be one/two trainers that will find ways to have better horses. The only way to avoid that would be to have a truly random system in which case don't bother with breeding, just have the game generate gamebred horses every year. The problem with that then is you don't get to build lines which is pretty much the whole reason for the breeding system.

Perhaps the league should be run only allowing game bred horses? In that way it really is random and everyone has a chance of getting good horses.

Yea and they were breeding in Australia .... hahahahaha

Andy my point about the transfer pool was if there was not 1
then it would take less time putting a team together
for instance lets take Feat Ping for example
with this system you could breed him with mares from 5f up to 2m4f and he will produce solid horses in alot of distances
he would produce class horses from 1m4f up
because you can transfer in your best mares at every distance to be covered by him

it honestly was not a pop at you
you are right there will always be an elite few
trainers that will dominate in the lge

My opinion is i'm 50/50 on it if it went i wouldn't worry about it
if it was kept i would continue to use it

I trust akhc 100%.

Im a late starter to breeding for the League( only ever played My USA game) didn't start breeding until this season got under way and it is possible to reach where Akhc is at ( i'm 100% sure it can be done) if u play this game enough and spend hundreds of hours breeding horses. My horse are getting better and better and if I had made a commitment to play the league last year and spent the hours playing this game then i'm sure u could get near The Champ.

I am with you regarding Andy 100%, he has the knack and time and his help to everyone in this league has been paramount, I am not questioning anyone's integrity. Please don't think any of this as sour grapes, I know I don't have the time to breed as some players do, I am happy with my handicappers, yes there will always be better trainers (realism) and that is how it should be.

I just think we should consider tightening the control regarding cloning before another season..... I waited till week 11

(wishing quietly, I had said nothing now)

Anadin We just need a Frankel to beat him.

I wasn't having a go at anyone. Simply pointing out that there's either a way to improve and get better in which case some will always be better or not in which case there's no point. It's the age old conundrum of MMOs. How do you provide advancement for all levels of people playing from the power gamer to the occasional gamer and still maintain their interest.

At least in SO5 you have handicap races which really help.

Just butting in here......................I don't play in the league, and to be honest don't follow a lot of the conversation here as a consequence, but all I would ask is that whatever changes might be made don't impact on us players who just enjoy playing the single player game and not to prioritise the needs of the league over the enjoyment of simply playing Starters Orders. Just my personal view.

Exactly my point, if you have a look in the previous page.

I wouldn't worry too much, remember Mark is the game's creator and he isn't part of the league. From the little I know of Mark I can tell you he is a very fair man and won't value one sub-group of people's opinions over anothers'. He wants to make the game better for everyone and as he has no involvement in the league I wouldn't be too worried that it will become a league orientated game.

There's so much bickering going about at the moment. Come on guys, discuss. But please stop the petty arguments and one-up-man-ship. It is beginning to get quite old.

well for me I think that we should keep it matt was the one that introduced it to me and it is nice knowing that if you have a horse that performs well in the league that you can breed from them again for next season and see how their son or daughters perform.. my two handicap winning horses that have won 2 races each this season Blazer Stallion and Blade Meph li are in the breeding barn and I am breeding them to new horses that I just started on so I am breeding Old school with New school if there was no ttf I wont be able to see Blazers and Blades offspring for next league season because after you play a lot of seasons they will be gone or to old to breed from in your game and you will probably lose that line forever...the ttf lets me breed with those lines that I have bred probably a year ago..I know its unrealistic but it makes breeding much easier for me you can just go to any lines that you feel like breeding whenever you feel like it..

I haven't seen the other thread but i don't think there is bickering or arguing going on about this subject
from what i see people are just putting over there points of view Both lge trainers and non lge trainers
I started the Poll to see what EVERYONE'S point of view was
I thought thats what forums were all about
i have already stated my opinion about it i'm 50/50
i think this season there has been very little bickering going on just the aussiegate thing
and the handicap thing apart from tht this has been the friendliest lge yet
and remembering some of the rubbish that went on the forum 2 or 3 seasons back everyone have been saints compared to that

What bickering? What petty arguments?

sorry for being off topic but whats the limit on how many horses can you have in one ttf file?.is there a limit that is of you put too many horses on the ttf that it will crash? also whats the most horses somebody has put on a ttf?

no limit
300 most on 1 of mine

So you did! Thanks for the consensus!