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pjrhodes1970
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 Re: Small Build Horses - Secret To Success?
2nd thursday auction 7 horses
all 7 average build
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:50 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
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Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
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 Re: Small Build Horses - Secret To Success?
3rd sale/auction
5 horses all average build
so not really common but i could goto another 3 and get differing results
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:53 pm |
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SiriusChill
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 Re: Small Build Horses - Secret To Success?
Just perusing the screenshots I kept of my ttf horses I kept for breeding and out of around 250+ horses maybe 5% at the most are small build. Interesting thing I see is a horse who is 2yo on my team this year who hasn't started yet who is a small build. In the game he was quite average. In the CK he runs much much better.
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:53 pm |
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SiriusChill
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 Re: Small Build Horses - Secret To Success?
I will start new games and look at the beginning of the year 2yo auction and give you a sample of the US schedule stock.
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:55 pm |
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SiriusChill
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 Re: Small Build Horses - Secret To Success?
First try at beginning of year/game 2yo auction...
A small sampling from starting 3 games on the US default schedule produces...
Total
Horses = 150
Large = 3 average = 142 small = 5
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US Default Schedule
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Horses = 50
Large = 1 average = 47 small = 2
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Horses = 50
Large = 2 average = 46 small = 2
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Horses = 50
Large = 0 average = 49 small = 1
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:07 pm |
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SiriusChill
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 Re: Small Build Horses - Secret To Success?
The UK samples...
Total
Horses = 150
Large = 6 average = 139 small = 5
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Horses = 50
Large = 1 average = 48 small = 1
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Horses = 50
Large = 2 average = 45 small = 3
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Horses = 50
Large = 3 average = 46 small = 1
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:21 pm |
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SiriusChill
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One final sample using the UK Default Schedule. I simulated 5 seasons and then looked at the top 100 hoses by career.
Horses = 100
Large Build = 1 Average Build = 98 Small Build = 1
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:55 pm |
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SiriusChill
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 Re: Small Build Horses - Secret To Success?
I will now breed small builds to small builds and see what I come up with.
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:57 pm |
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ghostzapper74
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 Re: Small Build Horses - Secret To Success?
SiriusChill wrote: Are a vast majority of horses in the UK schedule (Which I'm just guessing is your preferred schedule) of small build? Small build horses in the US schedule aren't prolific in terms of the amount of them.
The horses of yours that I looked at have small builds all the way back through their lineage. The same for the most part with jalupen, nashwan, pj and probably akhc last year from what I briefly looked at. Ghostzapper seems to not have an abundance of small builds in his yard.
Really appears to me there is some sort of advantage. Sirus when I started my breeding program it started from my USA breeds, so perhaps that's why I've got bigger Horses. Now and again I can still get dirt bred jumpers I cant find any of my horses with small build's. My horses are very average. Plus I've found the Juice 
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:59 pm |
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ghostzapper74
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After the window closes will anyone who think they found a way to get good horses quicker tell us how they did it, I'd love to know if there were short cuts. I never found any.
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:22 pm |
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simpleminds
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Must say I never even looked at my league horse's build never fought about it till now I looked at my best Jumper My Tony Small Build and my best Flat horse Cwm Bargoed Small Build but both have average build horse's in lineage mostly on the dams side's and perhaps I should do some quick small build breeding programme see how it goes.
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:01 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
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 Re: Small Build Horses - Secret To Success?
ghostzapper74 wrote: After the window closes will anyone who think they found a way to get good horses quicker tell us how they did it, I'd love to know if there were short cuts. I never found any. I Honestly doubt there are any shortcuts or secrets apart from when Aussie-gate surfaced i cant imagine anyone success is anything but down to time put in and hard work on breeding lines what always used really miff me was when Andy used to say he put very little time into his team & put very little time into producing league superstars when i knew how much time i and others were putting in but clearly to be competitive you need to put mammoth amounts of time in and clearly Andy put the time in but never admitted it i have played this game more than most and have never found shortcuts or secret methods and if i had everyone would already know about it
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:28 pm |
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SiriusChill
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 Re: Small Build Horses - Secret To Success?
After the small samples I took it appears the vast majority of horses are of average build. I have to ask if perhaps there is a CK glitch where average build horses are being shown as small build.
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:30 pm |
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ghostzapper74
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pjrhodes1970 wrote: ghostzapper74 wrote: After the window closes will anyone who think they found a way to get good horses quicker tell us how they did it, I'd love to know if there were short cuts. I never found any. I Honestly doubt there are any shortcuts or secrets apart from when Aussie-gate surfaced i cant imagine anyone success is anything but down to time put in and hard work on breeding lines what always used really miff me was when Andy used to say he put very little time into his team & put very little time into producing league superstars when i knew how much time i and others were putting in but clearly to be competitive you need to put mammoth amounts of time in and clearly Andy put the time in but never admitted it i have played this game more than most and have never found shortcuts or secret methods and if i had everyone would already know about it It got me wondering because Andy and Jamie( I think he said it) not sure, implied that there were cheats and someone said they would wait till after the window. Paul I've got to admit since I started breeding for the league six months ago I will have spent 800 hundred hours+  breeding and trailing.
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:42 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
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ghostzapper74 wrote: pjrhodes1970 wrote: ghostzapper74 wrote: After the window closes will anyone who think they found a way to get good horses quicker tell us how they did it, I'd love to know if there were short cuts. I never found any. I Honestly doubt there are any shortcuts or secrets apart from when Aussie-gate surfaced i cant imagine anyone success is anything but down to time put in and hard work on breeding lines what always used really miff me was when Andy used to say he put very little time into his team & put very little time into producing league superstars when i knew how much time i and others were putting in but clearly to be competitive you need to put mammoth amounts of time in and clearly Andy put the time in but never admitted it i have played this game more than most and have never found shortcuts or secret methods and if i had everyone would already know about it It got me wondering because Andy and Jamie( I think he said it) not sure, implied that there were cheats and someone said they would wait till after the window. Paul I've got to admit since I started breeding for the league six months ago I will have spent 800 hundred hours+  breeding and trailing. Andys domination was unreal what slightly miffed me was when he said he put no time into it which made me think was there a shortcut clearly there is not (I stand to be corrected) he must have put the time in as we have ghost & maybe alot more to be that dominant I have experimented (tried everything when it come to breeding) Never found anything just that mixing distances bought quicker results nothing really that big or as mind numbing as aussigate which showed massive improvements in ck Who said they would reveal a cheat after the window mate i dont understand that why would anyone want to hide something
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