I like my 5 or 6 season trials, don't have as many mares as U and Leon and doing any quicker would be pointless, I like 5 or 6 so u can get 4 seasons out of the really good/great stallions. That's the good thing with this game, many different ways to do things but all can be successful.

Cruising burst over 50 (except sprinters) up to about 75

Extra speed 75 -98 except extreme stayer on about 65.

I think my mistake may be not trialling every season.

If there are horses that have monster bars/perform well in game but poorly in CK then it stands to reason that the opposite must be true as well. I am probably missing out on those horses that are useless in game but good in the CK.

My excuse of course is that I haven't got time to trial every season but i should probably reevaluate this and manage my game time better.[/quote]

I've got a stallion called Only Trouble who performed good enough to be breed to but I didn't like him because he's a middle runner( Didn't want to dilute my front runners). He's got the biggest bars of any horse I've had over jumps in 7 and I'm going to start to breed to him and hopefully he'll mix well with my front running mares but I think it'll take a second generation horse to show enough ability to be good enough to mix with my horses. He got about 85% cruise and about 85 to 90 speed. Hopefully he'll give my horses some of that in a generation or two.

Titillating in my league team is one such example, won nothing in game was a not genuine type of horse and rated well less than 100 in game. Fine at trial. Thundercloud was another who was only average in game, though I was probably running him at the wrong distance.

And as a general rule you can get away with 50%+ cruise on the NH and speed from say 70%. But flat you want 70% cruise and 90%+ speed with potential. In my view.

That would probably explain why I always do far better on NH than on flat.

70% cruise. I can see that somewhere in the distance with my 57-60 max on the flat

Really wish I'd paid more attention to stats early on in my game, an not flooded the game with all my cast off horses so no new stats came through.

Probably the biggest lesson I've been given this season by Josh, an possibly the one before last too when John wiped me out late on in the league. I'll be doing a lot differently when I eventually start a new game for SO8

That's anther good thing about this game, u can be the best the first few league seasons but u could max out u horses and someone could have better bar horses and catch up and even pass later on. U can go forward or backwards from one season to another. I think when 8 comes out newbies need to learn that u cant rush u team, take u time and dont rush. If u miss out at the start u wont get it back.

The only regret i have from 7 is i didn't get to max out my best flat team, i still had a good bit of improvement in them.

That’s basically my NH game, the bars were still hidden when I started it and I have been waiting for a few seasons now to be caught and passed, this season feels like the closest everyone has come and your my favourite to pass me next season. I have gotten away with it so far simply as the bars are less important on the NH than they are for the Flat.

Personally i probably don’t even think about either racing or trialling until around season 20 and when I have gathered the elements I want. The only reason to race early is to make money but that just takes one horse.

Yeah I was thinking it would happen to me last season on the flat, but I think a lot of people sort of turned away from the flat league so the result was very flattering. It's massively happened now

So for the fiirat 20 season or so, find and purchase the best horses with the required stats in CB, Extra Speed and High Pot, and then breed off to game stallions in the hope of finding a CK stud star to breed with the good Stat horses one has created since the start.

It’s such a grind .. a bit like a fruit machine. Hoping for that Bar Bar Bar horse.

Nobody steal those horse names I’ve just created.
Fruit Machine and BarBarBar. They’re my handicappers.

Without sounding arrogant, I sort of figured I could get you when I saw your horses on discord and I had ‘Prince of Darkness’ beating you with 55% cruise and 95% speed. All my top US sprinters are connected to his line, I just uplifted the cruise to 69%. The best I have available in that game. I just did not expect it this season.

I had a new NH game that I started as I had anticipated getting caught, had cruise to 80% and speed at 90% across all distances. It was a total bust. Miles behind my vastly inferior main game horses. NH is more about juju and jumping than bars for me.

Basically yes. I did not start so7 like that, back then my focus was just on potential as in the original league mode the bars were hidden. But since the bars have been exposed that’s how I do it, both my flat games ran like that. The US game I did not find the magic horse until late 30 seasons or so, an 18yo breeding mare with 69% cruise, I got lucky and in her first breeding season she paired with a potential and speed horse and I got a colt with the best of all. That horse is behind every single US line I run today. The U.K. was easier I found the bars everywhere, but the horse that unlocked it all was a 60% cruise and 75% speed horse but he had the juju and like the US game all my good U.K. horses have him in their lines or variants of him. The bars are the starting point, but they are as Leon said useless without whatever it is that makes a horse good at trial.

If mark does anything right with so8 those hidden stats need to be burned, but I won’t hold my breath.

I've abandoned my plans to get a US game going quickly before next season. I started about 7 games an not one of them had what I needed, so I realised exactly what you said there. it was gonna take way too long t find the right stats. Wasn't gonna work in the time frame. Just gonna have to try an squeeze every last little bit from my current crop an hope they can pick up a bit. Might just concentrate on the NH stable mostly though

BTW what were u looking for, I think it's harder to start a US game than a UK game.