I agree with the NH schedule, and I would really like to help out with that.

I have a 1m4f filly, a 1m6f Colt, a 1m4-6f Colt, a 1m2f Colt and a 1m2f filly, no 3yo or 2yo. As I started in week 2 I struggled to find maidens for them all.

I agree the first and third should be thrown out and Bessie Cool awarded the race.

Missing week 1 was quite a big thing sadly.

You still had a 1m1, 1m3 and 1m5 maiden in week two.Week three did only have one maiden over 1m2 but also group races over 1m4, 1m5 and 1m6. Although its not ideal to enter group races first time we do fortunately have a human handicapper who understands the game and would rate your horses accordingly.

I am not defending the schedule, I want it be improved for every trainer we have. If you had uploaded your stable for week one, had more time to prepare your league team do you think you would still need more maidens just to get runs into your horses? I am for having maidens to provide trainers with more chances of finding winners but I also feel if you enter and place your horses correctly the handicap system will work and there is a greater need for handicaps than maidens throughout the season. I am not necessarily right and whatever the consensus is will be what the schedule is built on. It still wont be please everyone but it must be balanced for all levels of trainer.

Week 1 had a 1 mile maiden for 3yo colts
Week 2 had a 1 mile G3 for 3yo colts and a 1 mile 0-75 handicap open.
There were no 1 mile races for 3yo fillies, so most if not all the field of the 1000 Guineas had been running at 7f.
So how anyone can question the quality of the race or horses when none of them had any form at 1 mile is a bit strange.
So maybe we should have a 1 mile race for 3yo fillies before the Guineas.

Despite the fact that I missed week 1 and that was because I wasn't going to enter in the first place. I still think just one or two maidens, not many at all or maybe even conditions races for horses/trainers who haven't run/won run off level weights to help get a better handle of your horses. I'm not saying I want more maidens because I missed a week, it is an honest opinion I think it would make it more realistic and maybe allow more people to get wins in the league.

I want the league to be as enjoyable for everyone. Whether you have a stable full of group horses or low band handicappers. You did originally say you couldn't get a run into your horses? I am not in charge of the schedule, no one person is, nor will I take offence to criticism. But any ideas must be backed up. I still think handicaps are a more realistic chance of winning a race if you have poor horses, rather than maidens. There was an idea for trainers maidens for trainers without a winner. But I dont think that idea works.

I would hope that new trainers will learn a lot from this season. I am also hoping to write a thread with help from various trainers, experienced or new, to help new trainers or those struggling. Choosing a balanced stable and then placing your horses well is more than half the battle to winning races. Personally I dont think adding more maidens will help people get more wins in the league. But again its not just my opinion that matters. Its everyone's. So if the call is for more maidens then whoever makes the schedule must put that in.

I've got five wins in three weeks. I'm a manual trainer with less than twenty seasons in ONE save game. Sure they're lesser races but I knew going in I was up against it with other trainers using laser like focus to breed the fastest and best horses. Spend a little extra time finding the best surface, track, weight advantage and pace scenario in handicaps and more than likely you'll get a win.

I've decided not to go the power trainer approach but instead now I'm culling out quickly the horses with lower 'potential rating' and keeping the ones with near top or top potential rating in order to improve my stock. I had to because I started a new season and found myself with more than fifty horses which is way too much for this manual trainer to deal with.

For the record I train all my horses on stamina setting and export in late December. My horses usually average around eight starts a year. If you're hell bent on winning group 1's this approach is not for you.

I will be working along with Leon on the NH Schedule I been looking at Novice Races this afternoon we do need a Complete overall of the novices this is what I found so far ( This Does Not Involve Juvenile Hurdles )
Week 1
Novice Hurdles
3 All Maidens
2m 2f
2m 3f
2m 1f

Week 2
2 Both Maidens
2m 1f
2m 5f

So even at this point we dont have a Novice Hurdle over 3miles

Week 3
1 A Novice H'cap
2m 4f

we need some novice races in this week

Week 4
1 again and even worse this one is a Group Race
2m G1

Week 5
3 but 2 are group and one is listed plus this is the first 3m novice Hurdle

2m G2
2m 4f Listed
3m G2

Week 6
3 2 x group 1's and a Novice Maiden
2m G1
2m5f G1
2m 4f Maiden

week 7
This week is ok we have 4
1 G1 2m 2f
2 x G3 2m 5f and 3m 1f
1 Novice Maiden 2m

Week 8
2 This week
G2 2m
Novice Maiden 3m This at the moment is the Final Maiden Race

Week 9 Cheltenham
3 x G1 Races

Week 10 Aintree
2 x Group races

Week 11
1 G2 2m Fairyhouse will have a look at this week for Future.
Week 12
2 Group
3m G1 Punchestown
2m 1f G1

The novice chase's are not as bad as the Novice Hurdle's Races but will need changing as week's 3 and 4 for some reason are low on novice Races.

I really think you want to start from scratch, Gray. It gets ever so messy trying to edit the current one. I would compile a list of all the Graded races, Graded handicaps, listed races and big handicaps from the real racing schedule. Then balance those out with low grade stuff. Some lesser tracks have feature races like the Devon Marathon from Exeter or Premier Kelso Hurdle, Market Rasen Summer Plate and Chase, Scottish Triumph from Muss, Durham National etc.

Only an idea but thats what Rich and I did with the flat. Doesn't mean it is the best way

I think you might be right Matt would like to include Auteuil and would also like to see different minor tracks like Catterick even Sedgefield and Hexham maybe Plumpton.

One race it would be nice to have though maybe not wise to include as a) its not a standard course in te game and b)it would seriously skew the trainers championship is the Nakayama grand jump.

We could only dream Ubar the days you and me battle for Nakayama Grand Jump or the Carolina Cup at Springdale or the Breederscup chase at Far Hills

I am a newbie and have a stable full of low grade horses. I have had no problems with the flat schedule and finding races for them however with the jumps I am finding it very difficult to enter in races where m horses have any conceivable chance. There is a lack of low grade handicaps.

Noted Pommard we will be looking at the jumps schedule soon will do a Rewrite with Leon before next Season.
Also if Leon wants will look at mares Races too Supercat.

Just read the racing post and inside there was a pull out for the British Champions Series and it got me thinking, why not have a series like that in here to decide who's the champion in each division.

Let's take the Stayers.

Dubai Gold Cup
Yorkshire Cup
Henry
Ascot gold cup
Goodwood Cup
Lonsdale
Doncaster
i'st leger
e'st leger
Cadran
Champions long distance

How about a point system for each race and whoever gets most points wins the Trophy or u must say get in the top 3 or 4 in one of those races to be allowed entry for the Ascot Champions Long Distance Cup and whoever wins that's race win's the Trophy for that distance.