Dell I just could do it to west tip, it was a choice of having a grand national horse or having a horse for all the season. I knew I had no chance whatever horse I put in it that's why I wanted a mad race, that was the only chance I had.

I just cant run a horse if he's not got a full bar. But saying that my horse for the long distance races next season is a 8 year old called Brown Veil. She didn't lose much bar at that age and she won my trials. She either won or fell.

thing is i have never bred older stayers before well only 1 grand national queen but she was 7 with full bar and
its obvious that they mature alot later

with my flat team i would dump a horse in the bin with any dark green on the bar
i was just wondering if Del's 10yo's had any dark green
it sounds like most 8,9,10yo's do so its a case of having to export with the dark green
this is different at the lesser distances as most of them are good at 5,6,7 with full bar (No dark green)

Dazza did you upload West ttip up to age 10 ?
the horse at 6 was fab at long distance

Paul do you have Grand National Queen at 9 or 10yo ?

Two winners today, two of my fav horses as well.

Knock Hill ran a fantastic race, third win of the season.
And Brief Gale also won her third race to.

My 3m+ Chasers has had a great season and I have no idea how i'm going to keep up that standard next season.

I've only ever race them till seven, my horses fall of a cliff after six years of age. Some of my horses start losing their ability at 5, I wonder does anyone else jump horses do that.

I think west tip would have no green bar by ten. I'll get him out of retirement and have a look.

no and sadly no copy of her on ttf file

so starting a grand national breeding plan & have to start from scratch

still working on my 3m2 - 3m5 stayers at moment

Paul just chatted to Hemz big time top nhc champ trianer
said same as me 9 or 10yo best at max distance
good luck Paul

Does u ten year olds lose that much ability.

Cheers Del

R21 Costume Fetish (11th) - never going under a big weight and was beaten with a circuit to run.
R23 Showboat (4th) - got outpaced down the hill. ran on from the home turn but was never on terms with the placed horses.
R24 Glint Of Gold (1st) - was my most likely winner this week if he jumped ok.
R25 Bad Girl (2nd) - loved the firmer going and produced a season's best effort. had no chance with the winner.
R26 Miles To Go (7th) didn't jump well and was never going. well beaten.
R27 Tuneless Wonder (1st) - faster ground was a big help and he finally did in the league what he does to all my 2m4f chasers in the ck on good.
R28 Grecian Urn (PU) Mistake 1st. was a long way behind and should have been pulled up before halfway. jockey persisted and horse got injured.
R29 Savage Island (7th) - never competitive but he did get a terrible ride.

well done to all winners and placers.

I have just found that this is true in game too. African Downs, my stayer in the league has just won the National in game as a 10 yo. He had previously been 4th, 3rd and 4th in the previous 3 years as a 7, 8 and 9 yo. I wish I'd uploaded him as a 10 yo, he doesn't have full potential, but his potential bar is only just starting to drop at nearly 11!

Big congrats to my old pal delboy on winning the Grand National. Well done buddy, it's been along time coming.

Best things come to those who wait

It takes some winning and a lot of luck.

I've always found older horses much better at the GN trip than younger horses.

8,9,10,11yo have a much better chance than anything younger.

Not sure why this is, but having done loads of experimenting and trails with Hooley in the past.

Also game breeds seem to have a great record in the race over the season, i know my winner was a GB.

Cheers Craig
nice to see you back on here again yes 9 or 10yo is best at 4m+
be nice to see you come back in the league Mr Hemz

Just created a class grand national sched



changed all the french group races to g1s from 3m2 up to 4m4
some serious prizemoney on offer too
may tinker with the irish side next and add some 4m + g1s