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This could be something to add for next season. Nice idea, ghost.


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I'd say points system would be best, and the most points should be awarded for group 1s etc., and maybe double points for Cadran and the ascot race, and perhaps more points for 2m and 2m4 over 2m2.


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I'd say points system would be best, and the most points should be awarded for group 1s etc., and maybe double points for Cadran and the ascot race, and perhaps more points for 2m and 2m4 over 2m2.



I'd keep it to the group one's( for the 3+ older horses) because it would make the best horses perhaps race more, if u got a 2 and a half mile horse and for that horse to win the Trophy he would need to step down in distance to perhaps to two miles to win enough points instead of just keeping him at two and a half miles.

The average/poor horses aim in the racing league is to win a race ( they have something to aim for) but the best horse's have nothing to aim for apart from individual races.


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Ubar02 wrote:
I'd say points system would be best, and the most points should be awarded for group 1s etc., and maybe double points for Cadran and the ascot race, and perhaps more points for 2m and 2m4 over 2m2.



I'd keep it to the group one's( for the 3+ older horses) because it would make the best horses perhaps race more, if u got a 2 and a half mile horse and for that horse to win the Trophy he would need to step down in distance to perhaps to two miles to win enough points instead of just keeping him at two and a half miles.

The average/poor horses aim in the racing league is to win a race ( they have something to aim for) but the best horse's have nothing to aim for apart from individual races.


There aren't that many Group 1 races for stayers. In the league it would be Gold Cup, St Leger and Cadran.


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ghostzapper74 wrote:
Ubar02 wrote:
I'd say points system would be best, and the most points should be awarded for group 1s etc., and maybe double points for Cadran and the ascot race, and perhaps more points for 2m and 2m4 over 2m2.



I'd keep it to the group one's( for the 3+ older horses) because it would make the best horses perhaps race more, if u got a 2 and a half mile horse and for that horse to win the Trophy he would need to step down in distance to perhaps to two miles to win enough points instead of just keeping him at two and a half miles.

The average/poor horses aim in the racing league is to win a race ( they have something to aim for) but the best horse's have nothing to aim for apart from individual races.


There aren't that many Group 1 races for stayers. In the league it would be Gold Cup, St Leger and Cadran.


Oh yes( I was thinking about my game), perhaps have the group two's as well for the stayers. Have about 10 in each category. That list I named on the other page would be a fantastic because it's something for everyone. The 1m6 furlong horse's have a chance and the 2 and a half milers would have a chance.

The other division's would be easy to work out, Sprinters, Milers, Mile quarters and middle distance horses, perhaps put the mile quarters and mile half horse in the same division.

Have the same number of races in each division and whoever gets the most points win's the Overall Champion.


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Or have a real champion's series and every horse must place 1st-4th in 'x' amount of races in that section to be able to race on Champion's day. This would mean that we could have a separate card filled with top handicaps, listed and group races which wouldn't attract the top horses therefore giving more people a chance at winning a good race in the league. It would make Champion's day more exclusive, but it would be more of an achievement if a smaller or newer trainer got in and more of a spectacle to have at the end of the season.

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But having a Champions day would mean either another week or Cutting a certain Number of races in the Final two weeks people have already said they don't want more weeks plus you are going to have to change the all Flat schedule to lead up to a Champions a day I m not against it I would think it would help the Flat races but people don't want more weeks of racing.

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We already have the Ascot Champions day in the schedule and we already have the races from each series in the schedule. I dont think it would mean that many more races nor would we have to change the schedule in the lead up to a "champions day". This season we are running the schedule to reflect the real racing schedule so most of it is already in place.

http://www.britishchampionsseries.com/a ... ories.html


We would probably incorporate more races to reflect the races we have from around the world so it would be a Global Champions Series or the SO5 Online World Champions Series. But we have a lot of work to do on the schedule itself before deciding on any of this. I do think its a great idea and one that is easily implemented though.


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I think it would be really good, and like Keith said most of the races are already in the schedule. All you'd have to do is design the second card to run alongside the Champion's day.

Talking from a new/small flat trainer's point of view. Imagine the sense of achievement if you managed to get a horse qualified for it. Or being able to race on the other card (I imagine something like Shergar Cup day which has a proper mix of races) and winning a G3, or listed race, or a big handicap.

On another note I think that we should be able to have up to two entries in all races in the NH. Some of the field sizes, particularly for mare's races have been tiny. Personally I would have liked to have entered a second horse into the race. Field sizes would have to be kept realistic which I imagine could be coded into the computer and lowest rated horses removed first. Every trainer who enters (unless a huge amount of entries are fielded) will get a run and a few will get two. Horses would be removed using the same rules that are in place now. BUT maybe adding extra conditions to the races would be helpful, so rather than having a 0-140 handicap where a trainer with a horse rated 85 (for example) will almost always be scratched when compared to others with higher ratings. That race would be a 105-140 handicap, with another handicap race of 0-110 available at another meeting in the same week to those who did not qualify for the big race. Rather than having 4 meetings with loads of feature races, often all over the same distance. We would need to make sure there were equal opportunities for all, and this idea relies on us getting more trainers with more horses next season. But I think it would give people more chances, AND allow people to have more runners in big races.

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The problem with having a Champion's day is that u still don't get a definitive answer to who's champion in each division.
Let's take sprinting, well what race distance would u have the race run over, 5 or 6 furlongs. Some horses would be better over 5 furlongs and some would be better over 6. I think the series should be over a number of races and a number of distances/ courses/going to come up with the champ.

Let's say u run the champs day at Ascot then u only finding out who's champ at that course.


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On another note I think that we should be able to have up to two entries in all races in the NH.


This should not happen for anything bar handicaps as it will lead to domination by the top stables. Currently the group races in NH are won by a variety of stables. Allowing top stables to have two runners in group races will change these dynamics. Some one like myself would benefit but I prefer the current situation where smaller stables have a good chance of group success.

Currently there are 5 multiple entry races. Hennessey, Welsh National and Grand National. ( all trainers have a minimum of 1 entry rest of field made up of top horses in handicap rating )


And both the Foxhunters ( only handicappers allowed ) And double entry preference is given to stables at the bottom of the training log.

We can add more but stick to handicaps

It has worked well so far as we have a full field of 30 for the Hennessey which is brilliant


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Will the flat schedule be rewritten and if so who is doing it I have got all the jumps ready to add to a new schedule.

why I am asking I know guys want to stick to 12 weeks but I would like to add a extra week to add Auteuil in week 13 with summer minor jump fixtures i.e Perth,Cartmel etc.
so moderate horses something in the last week to aim for it could then allow more international meeting added to the flat schedule in week 13 i.e Sha Tin, Tokyo etc and some all weather racing Lingfield, Wolverhampton, Southwell for moderate horses again.


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Any news yet on the flat schedule.


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Nothing as yet mate, think we are all waiting on the results of the poll tomorrow to see how best we press forward with things.


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Nothing as yet mate, think we are all waiting on the results of the poll tomorrow to see how best we press forward with things.



Lets hope the baby can be put to bed and we can get on with it.

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