This is my progress to date




Still no where near trialing anything

Paul there is no quick solution ( I'd question people who say otherwise), it takes time to make the bars go up. It doesn't take days it takes months.

Think i have hit gold she hammered my league team making all won on the Bridal

John said
If u talking about pure flat breeds then I would say the percentage of importance is this.

Potential 45%
Speed Rating 40%
Burst 15%



When I look at the potential of this horse and factor in what John has said, it makes me realise that all the months I have spent breeding have been aimed at the wrong bars. I have spent 90% of my effort in maximising potential. I would have binned this horse, or maybe kept it for breeding, as his dark green potential bar is not about the same as his light green bar.

Do you normally keep and trial horses when the two potential bars are so far apart?

One Thing I'll never know is if the SO5 had the same bias, I never bred for extra speed in that game.

I changed the way I bred for this game when the great unknown turned up ( Namor) was he the rookie trainer he said he was or was he some one else, lets say he didn't act like a rookie trainer.

I knew what he was doing ( turning it into a arms race) and even though I didn't want to bred like it I thought I would join the stupid race, it's not fun and I'm glad I'm out of it.

Lets just say next season will be interesting.

Ghost why do you keep saying it takes time. This is after 20 seasons. I have some with full speed now and higher cruising burst. But those stats aren't everything. I have horses like Enter Sandman for one without full potential bars performing well in the league. To be honest if I had to breed like it is stated on here I would be bored with the game. I have said this before but you can play the game normally and not a massive amount of seasons and still do well in the league. You just need to spend time on your breeding each season

I'd agree with this, it's not so much about the time you spend per se, but about the base horses you're building the breeding around. I still can't be convinced that the hidden trait, i.e the CK performance trait isn't by far the most important. Add a large group of game horses at the start of your breeding programme, most will have almost full speed an Potential anyway, I currently have at least 1 female for my 5f start, an about 3 males, all destroy the rest in the CK and all have 97.5 extra speed i think. I will post pics later. But given these to start i can't see how it takes that long to get these to a decent standard, certainly cant see it taking months. Albeit that is only one distance obviously.


I agree about the enjoyment factor too, I have customized my start, mostly because I am a very poor loser lol. I just wanted to give my self a shot at competing, despite not having played it in a long time. As soon as I have my base horses, which I'm almost done, I go back to one of those World Scheds to use while I'm breeding, an try my horses properly in the game then, means I can enjoy both the league, and the game itself.

As you can see from my performance so far this season, my couple of months attempt a long while ago, wasn't very productive, an I put that down to being inpatient, and rushing the start horses.

Seems to me I have been going about this all wrong in playing the game normally on hard with a combi flat/jump UK schedule and manual training, without a method of buying the best game breeds, by adjusting the schedule to this end.

I am some 15 seasons in and pretty much win everything year in and year out, my breeding stock contains a stack of 20+ G1 winners and year in year out I breed another class to take up the mantle, typically via my own horses and a splattering of game horses who often account for some of my best, but equally I have a huge amount of disappointment in breeding from the available yearly game horses, some total lose years when exclusively breeding game and human and have found i tend to get a better overall stock by inbreeding my lines. This stood to reason as for the most part it was my own horses winning the main G1's.

I do not really CK via the export until I have seen in game class, and the existance of an all important yet hidden ck stat leaves me wondering why this is here at all given it creates a situation where playing the game is a secondary consideration to speed breeding and trailing, seemingly presenting a choice of either game or league, but not both.

Agreed, not sure why it is there, but it definitely is. Exceptional horses in game, are not always the best in your CK. And given the league races are run in a CK, it makes sense to concentrate only on the best CK horses.

Enter Sandman is a jumper and it's totally different with jumpers. U have better jump game bred's and there is no right way to breed jumpers. I love breeding jumpers because it's rather random.

It's not random if u breed flat horses, u need full potential and full extra speed bar. People will be breed how they want it's up to them.

Yeah don't breed for flat its an afterthought. Just enter to have a stable and happy if I get 1 group 1 on the flat. Even my flat game lines are geared for jumping

I would love to try out this way of getting gamebreds it always takes me ages to get them by restarting. As I cant do schedules is there a chance you can post yours up? Cheers

does battling qualities bar always stay on 10? i haven't seen one higher anywhere

i have seen 90% battling qualities but it dilutes down when breeder
its now completely disappeared from my lines after a few gens

Jimmy, can you send your schedule over to me or post up a link I am looking for a short schedule for breeding and cant find one nor am I capable of making one if you could would be great Cheers Darren