Here's what I have planned for this season

2 year old

5/6f 40
7/8f 40
9/10f 18

Everything else

5/6f 60
7/8f 60
9/10f 49
11/12f 49
13/14f 37
15f+ 37

I agree these will need tweaking in light of the above. But that's easy enough to do. At least you agree we should base the schedule on horses that were entered last season Matt? If so we have at least some common ground

I see your point about cutting back the less populated races but i dont count my opinion as i feel i should be totally impartial
im just saying b4 anything is cast in iron we need to make sure the majority are happy
i am glad you are working on it you seem to be made for the job

To be honest its the biggest load of crap i've heard since Steve did the schedule. I've tried to be nice, tried to explain but you seem stuck on a bunch of numbers you've got from an equation which doesn't even have all the variables.

Try to explain, without numbers, why you will be cutting the races I listed? Most attracted decent fields and those that didn't provided winners for small trainers. Im sure they'll be pleased when you take the races they can win away from them. But at least you have the numbers, which you dont even follow yourself over the distances, to back you up.

What should happen was look at the entire UK racing Calendar from March to November put in the main meetings around a month each week will be some overlapping then put in the smaller meetings followed by some over sea's racing put it online and discuss it. This balancing act is a waste of time in my opinion Andy and Matt are now starting a discussion about a schedule that is not even put together please let Andy finished the schedule before asking questions Matt he offered to do so let him do it then discuss later.

There are a lot more sprinter's Miler's in flat racing than 2 mile horse's so there would and should be more races in the schedule at these distance's as like in real life which was we wanted a schedule that actually looked like the real thing isn't.

That's the problem Paul. Aside from Matt no one else really has posted anything. I do plan to make changes in line with the number of horses entered at each distance. Matt obviously doesn't agree with this.

I do think that the silent majority probably don't really care . In which case if we do go with the numbers above then here are the % of races I plan for the schedule (390) races

5/6f 20% of races
7/8f 20% of races
9/10f 20% of races
11/12f 15% of races
13/14f 13% of races
15f+ 12 % of races

Compare against number of horses last season

5/6f 23% of horses
7/8f 23% of horses
9/10f 23% of horses
11/12f 14% of horses
13/14f 9% of horses
15f+ 8% of horses

I think that's a reasonable compromise based on these figures. So we're not slashing the 15f+ races right back (still 4% more compared to number of horses entered at that distance last season)

I agree Gray but I can't find a racing calender anywhere that lists all races. If you have one please let me know. As long as I don't have to input the data and can copy paste it into excel I can do rough figures very quickly.

Your question above is actually very pertinent and that's something I'm going to be working on over the next few days. Trying to decide which races to keep and which to discard and what proportions at the various distances. The problem is we have 390 races and there are more races in real life than we have so we have to find some means of selecting what races we keep. Whilst following real life is great and I would definitely try and keep to that there's no point including too many races at a distance where there aren't enough horses in the league to justify it. Hence all the statistics I have put up over the last 4 pages. But I agree.. let me finish the schedule and then we can balance it based on what folk think.

exactly best to finish what you are doing then people can look at it and then comment

That's your opinion. I don't see anyone else saying we should keep those races. You seem to keep missing the point. You're trying to have races for a minority of horses. Even if the fields were fine, shouldn't all those people who uploaded 5/6f horses (3x more compared to the 15f+ horses) have more races to try and win? You're wanting to make it easy for those who have 15f horses to win races whilst the majority of trainers who have uploaded 5/6f horses will have fewer races to try and win. Does that seem fair? If you think so then you're right we won't see eye to eye.

I'm glad you think the work I am doing is crap . What variables am I missing Matt? And why don't you try and explain with numbers why we should keep the 2m+ races?

its mission impossible keeping everyone happy

the schedule will be out with time for people to breed a well balanced team for the sched

my tean will consist of 20 milers

Sorry Andy what I did with the jumps is use the Edit schedule in so5 wrote the main races down section by section on to paper then look at minor racecourse results from month to month it was time consuming but Wikipedia is good for list of uk Flat races.

Great list. Pity about the format. It doesn't import well at all . I had seen the wiki page.

Thanks for the tip Gray. I'm planning on keeping it chronological as well and adding some other major events e.g. Dubai etc as has been done previously. It still is a question of finding the balance of races though but I'm going to be toting up the number of races in each category and then trying to find races to fit those. We'll see how it pans out.

Here's my final thought of the night.

Off the 768 horses in the league last season, only 90(!) were rated over 110. 24 were unraced and hence had no rating. The remaining 654 were rated under 110. Yet we had 128 group races.

When does Season 2 open for uploads - please?

Sometime in september I think Paul can confirm