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Handicap Ratings Very Puzzling
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Author:  East Pier Whitby [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Handicap Ratings Very Puzzling
How can these handicap changes be fair:

Music Bo - no change (fair enough)
Paco Boy - no change (why?)
X factor - no change (why?)
Pink Lips - no change (why?)

Handicapping is a joke.

1 �9,000 Gem Gem P Hanagan 9 4 Relaxed 78 84
bazdev 26.2 1:4.1 1:38.8 1:51.3 1(3) 1(1.2) 1(0.5) 1(0.5)
Made virtually all. Stayed on well.
2 �3,450 Turn Loose C Gannon 9 6 Normal 80 84
Doza 27.5 1:5.3 1:39.2 1:51.5 5(3.8) 4(3.2) 4(1.2) 2(0.5)
Steadied early. midfield half way. Stayed on.
3 �1,500 Music Bo J Fortune 9 5 Normal 79 79
nickdriver 27.3 1:5.6 1:39.0 1:51.5 2(3) 5(4) 2(0.5) 3(0.5)
Slowly away, soon recovered. mid-division half way. Not quicken.
4 �750 Kebreya Baby G Gibbons 9 2 Normal 76 76
Steven 27.5 1:4.6 1:39.0 1:52.2 4(3.7) 2(1.2) 3(0.7) 4(2.4)
Broke well to lead, restrained to rear. prominent half way. Faded.
5 �300 Paco Boy L Jones 9 0 Relaxed 74 74
Lami 28.4 1:5.9 1:39.9 1:52.3 7(6.3) 6(5) 5(3.2) 5(2.9)
Steadied towards rear. Behind half way. Never a factor.
6 �0 X Factor P Cosgrave 8 11 Normal 71 71
S Speight 27.5 1:4.8 1:40.0 1:52.8 6(3.8) 3(1.9) 6(3.5) 6(4.2)
Steadied early. midfield half way. Faded.
7 �0 Pink Lips R Kingscote 8 3 Normal 63 63

Steve
Author:  kenny1972 [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:42 pm ]
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In the real world horses rating don't change after every run here is an example mate

http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_home.sd?horse_id=707109
Author:  East Pier Whitby [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:46 pm ]
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I am aware of that.

But after regular failures they do.

Also your example is not the same as mine - anyone can see that.

Birds Of A Feather Stick Together (Even when they are wrong)
Author:  kenny1972 [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:55 pm ]
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sorry steve your right as always, I take it that's you finished with this forum and the league again mate
Author:  East Pier Whitby [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:58 pm ]
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One of the reasons I quit the newsletter/league president race was because of your backstabbing during the election process.

Sure you will check with Anubisrich before you reply about this topic again AW.

Makes a mockery of the statement two heads are better than one.

You both talk OOYA.

... and yes I am right (again).

I do get fed up talking to people who don't understand horse racing.
Author:  kenny1972 [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:07 pm ]
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I don't where you get the backstabbing from, IMO we could not have a pres that would quit if anyone makes a single comment that he doesn't agree with, a new forum member asked a question recently and you quit, this will be the last I comment on this point as you will be throwing the toys out the pram an minute now.
Author:  East Pier Whitby [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:13 pm ]
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At least I speak my own mind - unlike you who find out what other people think and then jump on the bandwagon even when they are wrong ... and yes they usually are wrong.
Some of your other chums will be on to defend you shortly so no need to continue replying.
Although you definitely will.

Why did you offer an apology to me during the election? If you didn't feel you had been backstabbing. Or did one of your chums tell you to do it? PMSL.

Just for the record, the league has gone backwards since Colm resigned. You certainly got the president you deserved. Mr Fudge Through.

Makes you wonder who sent Colm all that abuse when he did the job brilliantly.

I have information that would blow this league apart, concerning certain members - for the good of the league it will remain hidden.

For your information the only thing I had stopped doing was the newsletter, when I was:

1 On holiday
2 Fed up with the cheating in the league.

I only quit after the shambles created by your arrogant leader Jim Cougar.

So at the time of the election your comment was 100% wrong. AW.

I also covered for Connor when he quit after week 1 doing the handicap ratings.
Author:  anubisrich [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:02 pm ]
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The game takes a lot of factors into consideration, like pace of the race (and time accordingly), the horse's true stamina and the race it has entered (maybe prevalent for X factor and Pink Lips).

Maybe it feels that those horses are at their "correct" mark and the other horses were ahead of the handicapper and have that their rating adjusted upwards.
Author:  Hemz [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:26 pm ]
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I don't usually comment on stuff like this but come on EPW, Leave the guys alone. I've read countless comments about this that and other.

This is a beginning of a new era for this game and (ONLINE LEAGUE)!!! New president new staff, give it time, this game is about FUN fullstop not what handicap is not right and so on.

All i want to say is Excellent work and congrats to Rich?Dodgydave and all his Staff, who have made this new season happen. It's been a long road back thats for sure.

Lets enjoy this season and give Rich some ideas for next season and make this league even more FUN and Enjoyable.

Craig
Author:  dragontrainer [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:13 pm ]
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Stop crying about how bad the handicapping system is and play the game! It`s meant to be fun, if you don`t find it fun then just give it up.

Knowing there was going to be flaws in the system, why wait to complain? Your time may have been better spent campaigning your horses to take advantage.

I loved your version of the SOPL Times. Brilliant. But what the hell are you up to? Seems to me you are putting most of your efforts into breaking the league. Now thinking I`m glad you didn`t get to be president of the league.
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