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Author: | pjrhodes1970 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
Hi everyone i am away for the next 2 weekends i am going to liverpool next weekend with mates who are pool fans ging chelsea game Go Friday back Monday night & the weekend after i am away from Thursday 25th April back Monday Night 29th big family do in Rosegreen Tipperary my uncles 50th My brother is coming over meeting him in Dublin Thursday (he lives in London) (sorry didnt mean to give u my life story ![]() These were booked months ago its unfortunate for them to clash with lge so obviously i won't be around to put previews in newsletter but for those 2 weeks we can just place the previews here i will be back to release races on tuesday mornings as normnal and will cover reviews hot horses awards top 10 horses & top trainers lists as normal (from tuesday on) so everything will be normal just won't be around to do previews in newsletter will be around for the rest of the Lge |
Author: | Ubar02 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
I may be able to do the gold cup- what is available to help on Tom in terms of form? |
Author: | pjrhodes1970 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
there is now clickable form when you click on view races you can click on horses to see previous form just post your preview here as i won't be about to put in newsletter |
Author: | keithbeaky [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
Ubar02 wrote: I may be able to do the gold cup- what is available to help on Tom in terms of form? Probably the easiest race to predict the winner all season. |
Author: | Ubar02 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
Well in case you're thinking of starting an ante post previews section here's an early gold cup preview. Arguably one of the most built up clashes of Royal Ascot, the Ascot Gold Cup currently only has 3 entries. Is this because all the others have been scared off, or is it just because their trainers haven't entered them? Either way, the muddy puddle that is the Gold Cup picture will be a lot clearer in a weeks time after the 2m4f listed race at Sandown, which all of the Gold Cup entries are entered in, rendering the Gold Cup perhaps no more than a rerun. Entries: •Heroic Quest, Trainer: ubar02, Rating:113 Has run very close in 2 previous starts, over 2m2f and 2m, and the Gold Cup looks likely to be her second run over 2m4f if she takes up her engagement in next weeks Yeats Was King Listed race at Sandown. She has shown arguably the highest class form of all the runners in the race with second in the Group 2 Dubai Gold Cup at Meydan last week, though she was ultimately well held by the worthy winner. Indications from both her trainer, who has been talking up her chances all week, and her previous form suggest she should handle the step up in trip well and should find improvement. •Feat Ping, Trainer: keithbeaky, Rating: 119 The least exposed and highest rated horse in the race, with just an emphatic maiden win over the distance to his name, and with a glance at his entries looks likely to head into the race with just 2 runs under his belt, as opposed to the 4 runs each of his opponents look likely to have had. Future entries suggest he is at his best over 2m4f, though this may be due to the presence of Pinks For Girls in the same yard, so his versatility isn't likely to be tested. His trainer has been bullish so for over his chances, engaging in a war of words with the trainer of Heroic Quest, his form suggest he will have no trouble handling the trip and the general consensus is he is the most likely winner. •Again and Again, Trainer: cahiller, Rating: 106 The lowest rated horse in the entries so far, and has been soundly beaten by Heroic Quest in both of his runs so far. Put up a solid performance in the Yeats Champion Maiden, coming in third, but failed to back it up with a poor run in the Dibai Gold Cup, where the horse pulled very hard in the early stages before fading badly, which is a worry given the Gold Cup is another 1/2 mile further, though some confidence can be gained from the fact in his previous race he settled well and ran as if he needed the extra 2f. His trainer has been silent on his chances, and though his form suggests he may handle the step up in trip, on ratings and the quality of his previous form, it will be a shock if he comes home in front in 2 weeks time. Verdict: Overall, based on the ratings and previous form, Feat Ping, with form over race distance and ratings advantage 6lb is the definite favourite, closely followed by Heroic Quest who has put up good form and has shown versatility but is yet to race over 2m4f, and the current outsider is Again and Again on the basis of his previous form where he has been beaten by Heroic Quest on both occasions. However, all horses are down to run at least once more before the big race, and with two of the contenders stepping up in trip and the other having his first run outside maiden class, as well as surely more entries, there is the potential for a change in the Gold Cup picture. 1.Feat Ping 2.Heroic Quest 3.Again and Again |
Author: | Ubar02 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
keithbeaky wrote: Ubar02 wrote: I may be able to do the gold cup- what is available to help on Tom in terms of form? Probably the easiest race to predict the winner all season. Tried to offer a balanced and neutral preview above, but the winner is clearly going to be heroic quest after next weeks performance. Paul, this review I've posted above is intended for the newsletter. |
Author: | keithbeaky [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
What price Feat Ping to go the season unbeaten? |
Author: | Ubar02 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
Feat ping 1/10 to go unbeaten- if he doesn't run again this season. |
Author: | keithbeaky [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
You should be on stage. Fancy quoting a real price? He will run next week at Sandown and then probably just the Gold Cup and Cadran. Might try to win the 20f G1 hcap off 130. |
Author: | Ubar02 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
Not going for the prison break? My horse will be carrying a group 1 penalty by then remember ![]() |
Author: | Ubar02 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
So any chance of this going in the newsletter then paul? (Just asking again in case you miss my post further up) |
Author: | leonvr [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
How do you expect to beat Confederate Fatale. He easily beat Heroic Quest in week 1 and was drawing away from him at the finish. 2m4f suits him better and even though he got outpaced he still won easily in week 1, with Heroic Quest well beaten. Explain how you will turn the tables. I would like to see your logic |
Author: | Ubar02 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
Is confederate fatale currently on the entry list-not the last time I checked, so I have ignored him /her in the report. |
Author: | leonvr [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
I have two possible entries and am waiting for the ground. I think that you will finish behind both. Mountain Rescue will definitely run in the Caldran as he loves Longchamps and he will run in the Gold Cup if it is firm. If the going is good or worse Confederate Fatale will run |
Author: | keithbeaky [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UKRA Race Previewers Discussion Wk 4 & 5 |
Ubar02 wrote: Is confederate fatale currently on the entry list-not the last time I checked, so I have ignored him /her in the report. Its two weeks away. A lot can change before then. |
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