can you leave the gate to his stable unlocked and i will smuggle a few mares in now that would be kind of you
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| Author: | SuperCat [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
I have been trying to breed some distances I wouldn't usually concentrate on. Mainly sprinters which I have been having some good success with and I may well upload one or two. But I am really struggling with staying horses that stay 1m7f+, my horses get 1m6f easily and are pretty good proven by my two league horses. But I have been trying to breed a 2m+ horse, but I just can't find any decent stayers to breed with. How do people do it? |
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| Author: | akhc [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
It's not easy. Personally I find 1m6f the farthest I can breed with any certainty. The few 2m+ horses I have are from games where I have been lucky to find one horse that has dominated all the races from St Leger distances up. I don't actively look for them but in every game I start for breeding I just have a quick look in the barn at the start of each year to see if there are any candidates for breeding with and if there are I save that game so I can breed with that horse in the future over and over again. Even now I know that I don't come close to Matt at 2m+. Feat Ping is an anomaly horse in my eyes as I have never seen times that fast at 2m4f. If anyone has better methods of doing it I'd be all ears too! Just thinking about it a little more. The key is trying to find horses that have a full stamina bar which is not easy. All my league horses that get 1m6 and even 2m are one notch below full. |
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| Author: | keithbeaky [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
To start with I bred my way up to 2m. Often breeding 1m6 horses together or 1m6 x 1m4 and every now and then those pairings would produce a horse which could stay further than the parents. After getting a good pool of 1m6-2m horses I then bred all those together and ended up by breeding 2m x 2m and then 2m4 x 2m4. I did of course pick up a few stallions on the way and found a horse which won the Gold Cup in a very fast time who was actually decent to breed with. He brought me down below 4:50 and from there the times came down and down. On good ground with a pace of 28-30mph my 2m4 horses can do 4:42 at Ascot. For 2m the fastest ive seen with a 4yo, Pinks For Girls and Megastar, is 3:37. Pinks has been disappointing in the league so far, even when winning. I didn't think he'd get beat this season. Megastar is better on his day but must have a pace so his times are inconsistent. |
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| Author: | akhc [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
It's a shame there aren't more races for the ultra long stayers in the league. Not even a G1. I think we should have a few more such races next time out so that it allows a greater range of choice for trainers to concentrate on (even if it's not so true to real life). |
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| Author: | SuperCat [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
What kinds of attributes do you look for? Do they all still have max potential etc? |
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| Author: | akhc [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
Maximize potential. All my horses have 95%+ maximum and realized potential by the end of 2 years. For stayers I also like cruising burst. Stayers need to cruise for longer so the higher the better? At least in my own simplistic mind anyway! |
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| Author: | keithbeaky [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
Do you want a screen of Feat Ping's attributes page? |
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| Author: | Cairns123 [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
keithbeaky wrote: Do you want a screen of Feat Ping's attributes page? Yes Please! haha |
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| Author: | SuperCat [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
keithbeaky wrote: Do you want a screen of Feat Ping's attributes page? Yes please too (two?!). |
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| Author: | pjrhodes1970 [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
can you leave the gate to his stable unlocked and i will smuggle a few mares in now that would be kind of you
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| Author: | keithbeaky [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
Ok how do i do that? |
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| Author: | pjrhodes1970 [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
keithbeaky wrote: Ok how do i do that? put your key in the door unlock stable door turn a blind eye and i will sneak a van full of mares in for him to cover
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| Author: | Ubar02 [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
I was searching for a horse in the flat game with the aim of later running it in the grand national, came across an unraced 2m4 stallion a couple of months in or maybe earlier( Aggrivating who is in te NHC legue),picked him up for 130k, ran him for 2 or 3 seasons and he was a lot better than I expected, totally dominant in final season, so I shipped him off to stud, crossed him with the best game mares in the barn and my horse heroic quest is his granddaughter- I bred a mediocre filly from him, sent her to stud, crossed with the best staying stallion on offer, and heroic quest was born. He's also started off a few other lines such as a strong 1m2 to 1m4 line, and he's my main foundation sire, I also have another who was a far inferior racehorse and ran over 7f, but by crossing him with the best game mares I've managed to start a decent in game 6-8 furlong line. |
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| Author: | keithbeaky [ Wed May 01, 2013 12:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
How do I post a screenshot? |
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| Author: | pjrhodes1970 [ Wed May 01, 2013 8:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do you breed stayers (flat)? |
keithbeaky wrote: How do I post a screenshot? depending on your pc you either press ctrl & Prt Sc or FN & Prt Sc paste into paint save goto here http://tinypic.com/ upload image it will give you the forum code to paste in SOrders post job done |
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