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Author:  dcdean [ Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
Saw that there was a post that said new unraced horses may not be entered in group 1's on the flat, is this also the case for jumps, just looking at the fighting fifth and several unraced horses are entered and it is allowing me to enter my new uploads too is this right or will the horses be scratched?

thanks

Chris
Author:  The Duke [ Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
As far as I'm aware this also applies to NH races, so you won't be able to enter newcomers into Grade 1 races.

Might be worth getting Leon to confirm though but fairly certain this is the case.
Author:  dcdean [ Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
Thought this was the case might be worth highlighting this as 4 unraced horses are currently entered in the race

Also I want to enter lets go in the race - its a novice at the moment but I want to "give up" its novice status and enter it, I believed this was possible, is that right and how can I do it?

Thanks
Author:  jupiterjimmy [ Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
My horse has a good chance to win the race, don't see why has to be withdrawn or the others either. Just let them run.
Author:  dcdean [ Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
jupiterjimmy wrote:
My horse has a good chance to win the race, don't see why has to be withdrawn or the others either. Just let them run.


New horses coming in are likely to be better!

Was going to enter a newcomer myself but remembered it might not be allowed!
Author:  simpleminds [ Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
As far as I know NH horses will be allowed to take part in Grade 1 races but not group 1 races on the flat.


Gray
Author:  dcdean [ Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
Thanks Gray, that makes getting new horses a run much easier,

thanks :D
Author:  Kevcon [ Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
I think we all need some clarification on this matter.

Afaik unraced horses are not allowed to run in G1 races, flat and jumps, and any such horses will be scratched. Also, any hurdler switching to chases can't run in a G1 chase on its first start and vice versa.

Maybe Leon has decided to relax the jumps rules regarding G1s to give new uploads more opportunities but until I hear different, unraced horses in G1 races will be scratched.

Kev
Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
i thought Leon said jumps newbies were allowed to run in g1s
Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
simpleminds wrote:
As far as I know NH horses will be allowed to take part in Grade 1 races but not group 1 races on the flat.


Gray

this is what i heard too

allowed in NHC not in UKRA
Author:  SuperCat [ Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
dcdean wrote:
Thought this was the case might be worth highlighting this as 4 unraced horses are currently entered in the race

Also I want to enter lets go in the race - its a novice at the moment but I want to "give up" its novice status and enter it, I believed this was possible, is that right and how can I do it?

Thanks


Unless it is an upload error then a horse stays a novice for the whole season. You can enter it in non-novice handicaps, but not graded races.

I believe Leon has coded the SOPL site so that if a horse is eligible on the decs screen it will run, if it isn't on the decs screen then it isn't eligible to run.
Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
sorry for being a pest but can we get a definite yes or no on
entering new horses into nhc grade 1s i am sure Leon said this was allowed but not for flat
but Now Jamie and Kev have said no so we need a firm yes or no so people can correct entries b4 deadline
Author:  leonvr [ Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
Sorry about all the confusion. Horses can run in any race they can be declared for. If people have a big issue with this I can change the code, but at the moment in NH unraced horses can run in G1. On the flat they can't.

A novice stays a novice the whole season.

There is only one situation at present where a horse will be scratched. A horse cant run in a chase or hurdle handicap if it is not run in a chase or hurdle
Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
leonvr wrote:
Sorry about all the confusion. Horses can run in any race they can be declared for. If people have a big issue with this I can change the code, but at the moment in NH unraced horses can run in G1. On the flat they can't.

A novice stays a novice the whole season.

There is only one situation at present where a horse will be scratched. A horse cant run in a chase or hurdle handicap if it is not run in a chase or hurdle



Thanks Leon i thought this was the case cheers
Author:  The Duke [ Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can new uploads be entered in grade 1 Jumps races?
Sorry for any confusion caused on my part. Good luck to all with their new uploads!
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