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Post Couple of questions about breeding
I've just got a couple of questions about breeding that I've never seen answered in the main threads about breeding.

Do you keep horses that aren't successful on the track but are well bred with decent stats?
Have you ever successfully bred from a horse such as that?

I have a well bred 4 year old filly who won a g2 as a 2yo and since became so useless that I used her as a pacemaker to help my filly who wanted a bit further than a mile when she ran a mile. I'm thinking of selling her but have any of you had success breeding off a horse like that?


Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:14 pm
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Post Re: Couple of questions about breeding
Interesting thought but i prefer to breed from the best ratings and performers, If i have a foal bred from G1 x G1 And she/he does not do so well on the track then i would rather retire her/him than breed from, I did do a couple of experiments, A game bred horse who was listed class at best but was unbeaten in 1 season 15 races, He has 7 foals and only 1 was good so good he finished with a higher rating than his dad! Then a well bred filly, 138 G1 winner x 130 rated G1 winner, Only won 1 G3 herself had 2 foals 1 to a 140 and 1 to a 124 rated and neither were any good and in end had to be gelded.

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Post Re: Couple of questions about breeding
I also have been testing the breeding and have come up with my own evaluation of it. I only bin 2yo's that are clearly crap but it's not very often I bin 2yo's tbh, often certain stats progress when they get older. (You should find your 1m+ 2yo's that are born with little stamina stats and are racing 5f-6f in their 2yo calender will get an increase in stamina stat, for me it's either in August of the same year or the following January i.e when the foal is now 3yo)

I think that Potential, Consistency and Finish Application are important. I also cross breed for stats, for example the first one I looked at in my game,

This is the Dam and Sire

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I purposely used two G's with very high or full potential to maximise the chance (not sure if its 100%) of a full potential offspring.

It seems that filly produced has taken the battling of one of the G's but not the enthusiasm I wanted, Also it has taken the

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Ultimately, I feel that you can use a horse to try and cross breed certain positive characteristics into another but you also risk transferring negatives too, I therefore have been trying to cross only the most positive with each other, without direct inbreeding (unless I want an anomaly out of the bloodline).

So I look for horses to pair with each other that have the quality I want to add and almost equally as good stats, so that I don't dilute another quality

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