I know the feeling. Had a few crashes and re-starts also. Now at the end of every season I copy the game files to another folder. I've had to copy the backed up files back a few times. Still doing it this way you only lose one season.


I have only been playing a flat game but decided to try a combined game. Quickly found two 100% potential sprinters but after 10 seasons there is no sign of a half decent gamebred NH horse to start that side of the breeding. The flat horses I have bred in this game are pants over fences. It's like you said before, all decent jumpers at the auctions are either geldings or 15yo and the stud barn doesn't seem to have much in the way of decent NH horses.

Which one's do I have to safe, I put one of my flat horses into my jumps game and was a real top class chaser but when I bred to him he turned out to be useless and he never gave out good bar babies. I'm leaving the jumps well alone for now. I'm away for a week so it will be interesting to see if people can still breed better horses.

I am using slot 2, so I save all the "2" files - 2.btag, 2.sav, 2.sax, del2.tag, ext2.sav, in2.idx, o2.idx

Don't know if you need them all, but doing this has worked for me.

Thanks Jim.

My game crashed again but i worked out a horse was crashing my game at the end of a season and so i retired him from game and then my game was ok at the end of the season. No idea what all that is about.

This is the best dark green potential bar I have had in a 3yo. In fact it is the only 3yo I have had max out his dark green potential bar at 96% and I have probably bred over 300 foals in this save from the same three 100% potential sires. I've had about ten max their 3yo potential at 90% but never go on to max out their potential at 100%.






He maxed out his potential as a 4yo and went on to win 14 x G1 races before I retired him to stud at the end of his 5yo career. He was not valued as high as Paul's horse though. The AI only valued his breeding fees at £367,000. He hasn't sired any foals yet so don't know what to expect.

How are you guys doing this!? I’ve bred horses In the 80s but they run like crap, have any of you guys/will any of you guys make a tutorial? If so that would be awesome thanks

There is no secret to success at the start you need to build up your bank balance
then go to every sale and try and find a horse with close to max potential at 3 or 4 (Not Easy)
Then you need alot of luck in the breeding shed

Out of interest is there anything in particular you look at in auctions? It's far too time consuming to buy every horse and check their potential
Also is there anything that I should look at with gamebred sires other than group wins? I bought every group winning horse I found in auctions, best I found were about 75% potential but yet to breed anything better than themselves yet

The secret is simple invest every waking hour on the grind of so7, can only play a few hours at weekends, good luck personally I am sticking with so6 right now.

As an aside sack off the auctions there soul destroying. Just keep starting 8 new games on easy and check the horses, export the full pot horses here, much quicker, but will not spare you the mind numbing tedium of breeding.

Hi Josh

Have you tried starting lots of games in SO7 to find a 100% horse?

It worked great in SO6 but I tried over 100 new games in SO7 and could only find 90-95% horses. Maybe I was just unlucky!!!


The only reason I am playing SO7 at the minute is to help look for bugs. I agree with you, the breeding side of SO7 is absolutely unplayable for the average player unless you are like Paul or myself and are willing to spend dozens and dozens of tedious hours looking for just one good horse.

Hey Jim,

My original game which I abandoned after 30 seasons had three 100% pot horses found from this restart method, my current which has another 8 seasons in it, up to the point I stopped, started with 9, though a few were just under 100% as you say, I weeded the colts down to three, two of which were jumpers I think.

I have only ever found one 100% pot horse at auction an unraced 4yo filly who I brought cheaply, and now with 38 seasons breeding them 100% colts to a mix of fillies though none have less than around 60%, never bred a single one. In fact I do not think I have bred better than 70% pot ever and I have bred hundreds in the 30’s, usually half the potential of the lowest parent.

For me the game is either broken, or just unplayable with a normal or reasonable time investment. And you know from my SO6 league team I can invest a lot more time than most.

I have stuck with my combined game approach.

I cant understand how not being able to breed 100 potential horses means the game is broken or unplayable, i know everyone here disagrees with me, but 100 is the highest possible and everyone is expecting to be able to breed lots of horses like this, where is the realism or fun in playing like this?

I know its for the league, but surely if its just as difficult for everyone to breed 100 potential horses then everyone is off an even playing field in the league so it makes no difference, its just as competitive, whereas if it becomes so much easier to breed 100 potential horses that anyone can do it, it really makes playing the game in a realistic manner very difficult.

I do not disagree with you at all, your view is no more or less as valid as mine, we’re just playing the game for different things. You want one horse like frankel every 20 seasons or so, you want reaslism and a slow grind for success. I want to breed 30 Frankels every season, win every g1 every season, win champion trainer both codes etc effectively I want to beat the game and then try to breed perfection, ultimately for the assumption there will be a league. Pve bores me quickly, frankly so7 is already pretty dull for me, only pvp provides a real and long term challenge in my eyes. We’re probably at the absolute end extremes of what we want from a game.

And whilst your level playing field is sort of right, it is not entirely so, as the game as I have experienced it so far requires a huge amount of time to get decent horses, some league players will have that, but they are the few. And that’s not to say that so6 did not require time, as it did, but with tff files and knowing your bred horses will take directly from the parents with little degredation means the top tier hit a wall and the rest can catch up without too much work. We had a new trainer go straight to the top last season.

My gut tells me the so7 league gulf between top and bottom tiers will feel like climbing k2 with string and a few paper clips for anyone who is a casual or semi casual player.