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Well a quick trial for me shows some improvement but still hasn't taken me below 2.29 at Epsom. I'm sure Mark can sort this out without too much hassle. In any case it's easy to recognise these horses on their stats. You simply cannot get a horse to the max potential seen at 3 in the Aussie game without breeding them there. That last bit of potential can only be achieved by UK horses at 4/5.

If anything I'm enjoying this even more as I've beat the trainers that did use this trick. Lol


i have had uk bred 2yo with max potential andy i have shown screenshots before on this forum
i have had a fair few 3yo with max potential that have been nowhere near australia all generations Uk Bred
as i have said before there would not be many that put as much time in as me
i would hate to think of the amount of season put into last season lge team
the amount of experiments with gamebreds which actually do very little for your breeding lines
99% of the time its a backward step to breed with gamebreds there offspring get left trailing in ck

if anything it makes my wins more special was not wrongs G1 success was 100% down to hard work put in
that is now special to me

having said that we just don't know if this was known by anyone

this why i concentrated on 5yos right up to the start of the lge
because my 3yo could not live with the older horses in ck they got hammered
because most of my 3yo did not mature to be competitive with 5yos


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I think they will have a uk flag next to them because after bred in aussie they have to be transfered to a uk game then the horse will be exported to trial in ck and on the ck screen before the race is ran they will have a uk flag because they were exported in uk. it showed uk flags for me when I trialled in ck.. out of the two trainers that run us horses I guess I am one of them I started my breeding on the us schedule because I was born in the us and thats my country even though I am in the Philippines now..plus I had no idea about this until it was released on the forums and I had no idea about how potential was so important until akhc made that breeding guide so hope that clears stuff about my us horses..


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akhc wrote:
Well a quick trial for me shows some improvement but still hasn't taken me below 2.29 at Epsom. I'm sure Mark can sort this out without too much hassle. In any case it's easy to recognise these horses on their stats. You simply cannot get a horse to the max potential seen at 3 in the Aussie game without breeding them there. That last bit of potential can only be achieved by UK horses at 4/5.

If anything I'm enjoying this even more as I've beat the trainers that did use this trick. Lol


i have had uk bred 2yo with max potential andy i have shown screenshots before on this forum
i have had a fair few 3yo with max potential that have been nowhere near australia all generations Uk Bred
as i have said before there would not be many that put as much time in as me
i would hate to think of the amount of season put into last season lge team
the amount of experiments with gamebreds which actually do very little for your breeding lines
99% of the time its a backward step to breed with gamebreds there offspring get left trailing in ck

if anything it makes my wins more special was not wrongs G1 success was 100% down to hard work put in
that is now special to me

having said that we just don't know if this was known by anyone

this why i concentrated on 5yos right up to the start of the lge
because my 3yo could not live with the older horses in ck they got hammered


You're missing the point. Have another close look at the horses bred in Aussie. Their potential bar is COMPLETELY full. It cannot be maximized any more.

The horses bred in the UK at 3 have a maximum potential that is JUST SHY of max. We're talking a very tiny sliver but if you look closely you will see it is not quite full. That in itself identifies a horse that has been bred in the Aussie version of the schedule. See the pics below. A UK bred horse cannot increase the max potential beyond what Caeer Milfl has. Notice the very tiny sliver of black at the end of the potential bar? Compare with the Aussie bred horses where every last bit of the bar is full. There's your instant detection.

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I detect a hint of a suggestion that you think I have done this and that's my advantage for breeding. Well let me state absolutely clearly for the last time - I have not ever bred a horse in the Aussie version of the game prior till yesterday when this broke :). The horses I have bred have ALL been bred EXCLUSIVELY on the UK version. If there's any question about this I suggest you ask Mark to check my horses over and I'm sure he can clear up any baseless suspicion you might have about my horses.

PS. If he can't clearly detect this because there might be 50 generations of horses bred before this then I am willing to provide every ttf.dat I have and he can work back through every generation of breeding that has taken place for each horse. I guess there is some advantage to having being anal and kept every horse I have ever bred :mrgreen:.


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I think they will have a uk flag next to them because after bred in aussie they have to be transfered to a uk game then the horse will be exported to trial in ck and on the ck screen before the race is ran they will have a uk flag because they were exported in uk. it showed uk flags for me when I trialled in ck.. out of the two trainers that run us horses I guess I am one of them I started my breeding on the us schedule because I was born in the us and thats my country even though I am in the Philippines now..plus I had no idea about this until it was released on the forums and I had no idea about how potential was so important until akhc made that breeding guide so hope that clears stuff about my us horses..


I think USA and Irish game horses are seriously disadvantaged
the problem is my aussie breds once transferred into UK have australian flags in ck
but if i export that horse at 3 it becomes a UK horse in the transfer pool

but also i need to look at breeding these ck Aussie monsters i need to breed them in UK and see what their offspring do in CK
what their offspring stats are like


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It works, first try, the 2yo was nothing special at all, destroys my best 1m4 english horse

farce! Really hope no one has been using this in the league, would be hard to take.

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I detect a hint of a suggestion that you think I have done this and that's my advantage for breeding. Well let me state absolutely clearly for the last time - I have not ever bred a horse in the Aussie version of the game prior till yesterday when this broke . The horses I have bred have ALL been bred EXCLUSIVELY on the UK version. If there's any question about this I suggest you ask Mark to check my horses over and I'm sure he can clear up any baseless suspicion you might have about my horses.


No sir you have got me completely wrong
i have not accused anyone of anything i dont even suspect anyone of anything
especially not you heres why
you have been open from day1 showed screenshots of your horses
written a detailed brief on breeding advice and helped out alot of people including me
i am completely in orr of your horses you know that read my newsletters
so you have misunderstood me Andy


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It works, first try, the 2yo was nothing special at all, destroys my best 1m4 english horse

farce! Really hope no one has been using this in the league, would be hard to take.

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Same here Joe would be very hard to take


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I detect a hint of a suggestion that you think I have done this and that's my advantage for breeding. Well let me state absolutely clearly for the last time - I have not ever bred a horse in the Aussie version of the game prior till yesterday when this broke . The horses I have bred have ALL been bred EXCLUSIVELY on the UK version. If there's any question about this I suggest you ask Mark to check my horses over and I'm sure he can clear up any baseless suspicion you might have about my horses.


No sir you have got me completely wrong
i have not accused anyone of anything i dont even suspect anyone of anything
especially not you heres why
you have been open from day1 showed screenshots of your horses
written a detailed brief on breeding advice and helped out alot of people including me
i am completely in orr of your horses you know that read my newsletters
so you have misunderstood me Andy


In which case I apologise PJ. FWIW I know some will think I have done this but I also know for a fact I haven't.


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You're missing the point. Have another close look at the horses bred in Aussie. Their potential bar is COMPLETELY full. It cannot be maximized any more.

The horses bred in the UK at 3 have a maximum potential that is JUST SHY of max. We're talking a very tiny sliver but if you look closely you will see it is not quite full. That in itself identifies a horse that has been bred in the Aussie version of the schedule. See the pics below. A UK bred horse cannot increase the max potential beyond what Caeer Milfl has. Notice the very tiny sliver of black at the end of the potential bar? Compare with the Aussie bred horses where every last bit of the bar is full. There's your instant detection.



In my opinion this is incorrect. I got a British gamebred 3yo last night that had completely full max potential bar, i found him by using the same process in akhc's breeding guide. This 'Aussiegate' situation is disappointing, all the hours put into trying to breed a monster now feel worthless and wasted. Hopefully something can be done about this.


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Post the potential bar here please.


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As I said in the previous thread about the Australian game, it will only increase your horses if you have good lines to begin with.

The glitch isn't within the Aussie game automatically giving you good horses, it's more because of the start and end dates of the season, and when the horses are bred together which brings them a lot more forward than it does in the UK game (inline with Southern/Northern hemisphere in real life).

I toyed with it for a while and eventually found there was no enjoyment in it whatsoever, and returned back to the UK game. You can tell from all AKHC's horses that they've all been bred together in the UK game.

If the Aussie game is some sort of supercharged league game that people are suggesting, then does this detract from the likes of Scatters, Dave Fuller and I think Thunderspark who all played the Aussie game, and did very well in the league?

Food for thought....


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Dosent look good Andy, your half a second quicker than the best of the rest at every distance, we can all now catch up easily using this method but you cant improve your times with it?

The game wasnt out long enough for someone to dominate like you have at every distance, no one is that lucky to get freak game horses at every distance.

It cant be proven, but we will find out next season if everyone has caught up with you.

Plus, no one said you were doing it and you went heavy on the defensive.

If im wrong I apologise but it would explain the domination at every distance, specially for somone who "has barely played since the start of the year"

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Dosent look good Andy, your half a second quicker than the best of the rest at every distance, we can all now catch up easily using this method but you cant improve your times with it?

The game wasnt out long enough for someone to dominate like you have at every distance, no one is that lucky to get freak game horses at every distance.

It cant be proven, but we will find out next season if everyone has caught up with you.

Plus, no one said you were doing it and you went heavy on the defensive.

If im wrong I apologise but it would explain the domination at every distance, specially for somone who "has barely played since the start of the year"


So this is clear :) and you can't retract it because if this isn't an accusation then I don't know what is.


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Well the cheat works, so why cant you improve your times just now? Took me me 5 mins to take off .3 after spending about 100 hours to take off .1

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Post the potential bar here please.


didnt take a screentshot, moved on 4 seasons since then. However, he Doesnt appear to be transferring his outstanding potential to his offspring sadly.


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