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ARAPHO
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 To hurdle or chase, that is the question (shakespeare)
Advice needed on what and why enter hurdles in preference to chases or vice versa. Is the choice based on certain parameters : age, speed, or jumping ability? Any advice would be gratefully appreciated. Do please respond . ARAPHO
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:40 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
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 Re: To hurdle or chase, that is the question (shakespeare)
there are no secret signs its all trial and error mate pays your money take your chances I Like the novice/juvenile hurdle - hurdle - novice chase - chase route though 4 year cycle 4yo - 7yo
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:58 pm |
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simpleminds
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I Always Check my horses at 3 in the training tab section if it says Jumping Average or Good I make a note by highlighting the horse with my mouse press N then a little box comes up and I type in Chaser so I know in the future this horse could go down the chasing route.
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ARAPHO
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 Re: To hurdle or chase, that is the question (shakespeare)
simpleminds wrote: I Always Check my horses at 3 in the training tab section if it says Jumping Average or Good I make a note by highlighting the horse with my mouse press N then a little box comes up and I type in Chaser so I know in the future this horse could go down the chasing route.
Gray Thank you Gray, does this mean chasers need to be better/more natural at jumping than hurdlers ? Do horses increase in jumping ability by more racing? ARAPHO
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pjrhodes1970
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 Re: To hurdle or chase, that is the question (shakespeare)
I Have never looked at them before 5 times Queen Mother champion Chase winner below but apparently he is a poor jumper 
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:47 pm |
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Namor
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 Re: To hurdle or chase, that is the question (shakespeare)
pjrhodes1970 wrote: I Have never looked at them before 5 times Queen Mother champion Chase winner below but apparently he is a poor jumper  I thought this only meant how much the horse can improve in the future, not how good it actually is currently?
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RentonT
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 Re: To hurdle or chase, that is the question (shakespeare)
very interesting then... you could be right Namor!!!
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ARAPHO
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 Re: To hurdle or chase, that is the question (shakespeare)
pjrhodes1970 wrote: there are no secret signs its all trial and error mate pays your money take your chances I Like the novice/juvenile hurdle - hurdle - novice chase - chase route though 4 year cycle 4yo - 7yo I was'nt looking for secret signs but answers to my question. I do not understand "4 year cycle 4yo-7yo" 4yo,5yo,6yo, and 7yo is a linear sequence not a cycle. It would be HELPful if you could clarify this for me ARAPHO
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Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:37 am |
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pjrhodes1970
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ARAPHO wrote: pjrhodes1970 wrote: there are no secret signs its all trial and error mate pays your money take your chances I Like the novice/juvenile hurdle - hurdle - novice chase - chase route though 4 year cycle 4yo - 7yo I was'nt looking for secret signs but answers to my question. I do not understand "4 year cycle 4yo-7yo" 4yo,5yo,6yo, and 7yo is a linear sequence not a cycle. It would be HELPful if you could clarify this for me ARAPHO For a 2 miler 3yo/4yo - Juvenile Hurdle Career - Main Target Triumph Hurdle 4yo/5yo - Hurdle Career - Main Target Champion Hurdle 5yo/6yo - Novice Chase Career - Main Target Arkle Chase 6yo/7yo - Chase Career - Main Target Queen Mother Champion Chase I then usually retire PJRHODES
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Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:49 am |
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ARAPHO
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Thank you so much. That is really a helpful answer much obliged ARAPHO
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Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:53 am |
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pjrhodes1970
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ARAPHO wrote: Thank you so much. That is really a helpful answer much obliged ARAPHO no problem
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Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:55 am |
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pjrhodes1970
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You can even add a year
For a 2 miler 2yo/3yo - Bumper Career - No Main Target 3yo/4yo - Juvenile Hurdle Career - Main Target Triumph Hurdle 4yo/5yo - Hurdle Career - Main Target Champion Hurdle 5yo/6yo - Novice Chase Career - Main Target Arkle Chase 6yo/7yo - Chase Career - Main Target Queen Mother Champion Chase
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SuperCat
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 Re: To hurdle or chase, that is the question (shakespeare)
Or add a year on the other end:
For a 2 miler
3yo/4yo - Bumper career - Main Target Champion Bumper 4yo/5yo - Novice Hurdle Career - Main Target Supreme Novices Hurdle 5yo/6yo - Hurdle Career - Main Target Champion Hurdle 6yo/7yo - Novice Chase Career - Main Target Arkle Novices Chase 7yo/8yo - Chase Career - Main Target Queen Mother Champion Chase
I guess it depends when your horse peaks and whether it will be fast enough for the Champion Hurdle at 6.
Interesting theory about the training potential. I always took that to mean how good the horse was at jumping and it seemed to hold true in my games. But maybe I'll stop paying so much attention to it and start trying some of my really fast 'poor' jumpers from my flat game in a NH game.
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Rickydarkblue
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 Re: To hurdle or chase, that is the question (shakespeare)
Sorry to hi-Jack - been trying a wee jumps game for the first time, struggling to match horses to the right distance...do they have to be 2mile plus horses or would a horse bred for 1m6 on the flat be a good 2 mile hurdler??
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pjrhodes1970
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 Re: To hurdle or chase, that is the question (shakespeare)
sorry this dont help you much but a 2 miler in jumps game can be anything from 5f to 1m6 horse on the flat most of my best 2 milers are 7f or 1milers on flat though
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