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Author:  IiStaples [ Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:15 pm ]
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Never seen this before, anyone had the same?

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Author:  NPG319 [ Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:22 am ]
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At the moment I can only dream about it :)

Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:22 am ]
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done it a few times too only way you can do it is straight into the deep end in a G1

Author:  NPG319 [ Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:37 am ]
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pjrhodes1970 wrote:
done it a few times too only way you can do it is straight into the deep end in a G1


What's your highest from winning a maiden first up?

Author:  Hechicera [ Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:26 pm ]
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pjrhodes1970 wrote:
done it a few times too only way you can do it is straight into the deep end in a G1


Was my guess when I saw it. Since I don't see me duplicating this anytime soon :lol: , I am curious: Do they often keep that form? Or is that rating more an artifact of that one win with no other data in a race of that class (and presumably also against horses with existing higher ratings)?

Author:  NPG319 [ Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:13 pm ]
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Hechicera wrote:
pjrhodes1970 wrote:
done it a few times too only way you can do it is straight into the deep end in a G1


Was my guess when I saw it. Since I don't see me duplicating this anytime soon :lol: , I am curious: Do they often keep that form? Or is that rating more an artifact of that one win with no other data in a race of that class (and presumably also against horses with existing higher ratings)?


I think so.

Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:19 am ]
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NPG319 wrote:
pjrhodes1970 wrote:
done it a few times too only way you can do it is straight into the deep end in a G1


What's your highest from winning a maiden first up?



I think 134 is my best

Author:  NPG319 [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:24 am ]
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pjrhodes1970 wrote:
NPG319 wrote:
pjrhodes1970 wrote:
done it a few times too only way you can do it is straight into the deep end in a G1


What's your highest from winning a maiden first up?



I think 134 is my best


If you can remember - How did it turn out? Did it live up to it's rating?

Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:26 am ]
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when they get a 140 rating on debut it always goes down to mid 130s with more races even if they win
I honestly cant remember how the 134 turned out just 1 of abut 20,000+ horses i have trained :lol:

Author:  NPG319 [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:17 am ]
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pjrhodes1970 wrote:
when they get a 140 rating on debut it always goes down to mid 130s with more races even if they win
I honestly cant remember how the 134 turned out just 1 of abut 20,000+ horses i have trained :lol:


Yep - I know you've got a healthy breeding programme :-)
So I am not surprised you can't remember :-)

Author:  IiStaples [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:41 am ]
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pjrhodes1970 wrote:
when they get a 140 rating on debut it always goes down to mid 130s with more races even if they win
I honestly cant remember how the 134 turned out just 1 of abut 20,000+ horses i have trained :lol:


Surprisingly managed to hold 140 for the three year old season

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Author:  NPG319 [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:53 pm ]
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Another beast! :)

Author:  Hechicera [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:41 pm ]
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So, it did keep it's form. Wow.

Author:  IiStaples [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:18 pm ]
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Hechicera wrote:
So, it did keep it's form. Wow.


I wouldn't say she always ran to 140 but as she kept winning it just didn't drop. 2nd highest rated in Eclipse was 119 and she won half a length

Author:  ChrisOrmie [ Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:44 pm ]
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IiStaples wrote:
pjrhodes1970 wrote:
when they get a 140 rating on debut it always goes down to mid 130s with more races even if they win
I honestly cant remember how the 134 turned out just 1 of abut 20,000+ horses i have trained :lol:


Surprisingly managed to hold 140 for the three year old season

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Wow. I have no other words.

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