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Author:  OnTheNose [ Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Best route towards the Derby then beyond?

Without having to download schedule, what is the best way to plan a potential Derby winners career?

Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best route towards the Derby then beyond?

chester vase always a good trial and the racing post trophy at 2yo

Author:  The Duke [ Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:33 pm ]
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I always go for the Dante with a 'challenge earlier' command, and then go for the Derby. I find to win at Epsom you need a horse with good pace, and often you will see horses win over 12F at Epsom and nowhere else, this is because it is a very easy course to get on the game (very different to real life).

Author:  OnTheNose [ Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:35 pm ]
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For some reason, I have a great record with the Oaks at Epsom in my current game(something like nine wins on the spin) but I have one Derby win. The foal from my one Derby winner is also from my best Oaks winner, currently as a 2YO with a 10f maiden win at Epsom on his debut.

Hmmm, actually looking forward to getting back to work tomorrow!

Author:  OnTheNose [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:18 pm ]
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This is my record in the Oaks at Epsom, I was slightly off with the nine on the spin though! A few of these have gone on to win the Irish Oaks and Yorkshire Oaks.

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Author:  LAMI [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:54 pm ]
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Won my first Derby by going for Blue Riband Conditions Race at Epsom with challenge earlier tactic.

Underated for Derby and won at 33/1 by 4 lenghts.

I ran another horse in the race who had no prep run for won Saint Cloud Group 1 as a 2 year old. He finished 4th.

Derby winner going for King George and horse who finished 4th is going for Irish Derby.

Author:  The Duke [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:51 pm ]
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The Oaks is probably the easiest group 1 to win on Starters Orders 4, and I have no idea why. :?

Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Best route towards the Derby then beyond?

the oaks very very easy to win and the derby is also easy when i take my derby/oaks winner to breeders cup turf majority get beat
the breeders cup turf is the ultimate test for a 3yo mile4 horse its a different league even tougher than the arc to win

Author:  exxplozion [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:24 am ]
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pjrhodes1970 wrote:
the oaks very very easy to win and the derby is also easy when i take my derby/oaks winner to breeders cup turf majority get beat
the breeders cup turf is the ultimate test for a 3yo mile4 horse its a different league even tougher than the arc to win


Totally agree the breeders cup turf is the tough one, in fact I find any breeders cup race tougher than anything else.

Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:44 am ]
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exxplozion wrote:
pjrhodes1970 wrote:
the oaks very very easy to win and the derby is also easy when i take my derby/oaks winner to breeders cup turf majority get beat
the breeders cup turf is the ultimate test for a 3yo mile4 horse its a different league even tougher than the arc to win


Totally agree the breeders cup turf is the tough one, in fact I find any breeders cup race tougher than anything else.

in my original game i won the oaks 14 times in 17 seasons and the derby 13 times in 17 seasons the arc 11/17 but the bcturf only 5 times
and in that 5 i think 2 winners were older than 3 so my 3yo had bad record in BC turf but when you win it with a 3yo you know you have a
special horse

Author:  OnTheNose [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:19 pm ]
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Well that's pissed on my bonfire then! :lol:

Author:  Cairns123 [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:21 pm ]
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grand Criterium at 2, then the chester vase for me. Maybe the prix du jockey club if he is quick enough to perform at 1m 2f

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