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Lumynescence
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Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:55 pm Posts: 48
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 Debuting 2 year olds (US version)
Hey, here is a question seeking advice on debuting two year olds in the US version of the game. Many of my two year olds are bred to go at about 1m1f-1m5f. In the US game, all the debut races are between 5 and 6 furlongs, and they don't begin to increase to a mile until June or July--and any racing opportunities beyond 1 mile are practically nonexistent until the three year old schedule. But the problem is that many of my three year olds are showing up green when I refuse to race them as two year olds--any advice on this?
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Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:35 am |
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SuperCat
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Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:19 am Posts: 2055
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 Re: Debuting 2 year olds (US version)
Nothing. You have to run them over a shorter distance or pitch them at a lower level so they can win despite being green.
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Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:36 am |
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keithbeaky
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Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:47 pm Posts: 2407 Location: UK
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 Re: Debuting 2 year olds (US version)
There is nothing wrong with them getting beat due to being green. Give them one or two runs over 7f or 1m in Jun/July then maybe aim at the Breeders races if they are good enough. This is how things are in real life I believe. If you are breeding horses for longer distances I would recommend playing the UK game.
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Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:42 pm |
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akhc
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Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:53 pm Posts: 860
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 Re: Debuting 2 year olds (US version)
Depends on the horse I guess. A few stayers (1m4f+) will start with a very short stamina bar that will very quickly in 2/3 races increase. Those you can race at 5/6f and they will be fine. The majority of 1m4f horses will have a stamina bar that's at least half full and in these you're unlikely to win 5/6f races and you're looking for 1m+ races. You either take the hit and not win a race or have to find a suitable race as a two year old or run them at 3.
As for horses running green/benefit from the run it's just a trait of some horses. Not sure if it's passed on. However once you get a good breeding programme going you should be able to run green and still win the race even at group 1 level.
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Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:53 pm |
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Comebakatz
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:54 am Posts: 35
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 Re: Debuting 2 year olds (US version)
I just race my two year olds over the course of the season. Most of them have a shorter distance bar during the early races so they can go that distance. If they end up not being able to hit the pace for that distance then I try to race them in training against one another to keep them fresh and wait until the mile races.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:44 pm |
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Ubar02
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Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:04 am Posts: 2119
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 Re: Debuting 2 year olds (US version)
Does doing a race on the gallops at home solve greenness in any way? I know it shouldn't, but just wondered if it does?
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Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:18 pm |
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SuperCat
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 Re: Debuting 2 year olds (US version)
Same here... Notice the date of the first post... Ubar we might have to delete... maybe 4 of your posts! 
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Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:50 am |
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pjrhodes1970
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Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
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or 400 
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Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:03 am |
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SuperCat
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 Re: Debuting 2 year olds (US version)
Why not 1002? That seems like a nice round number... 
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Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:14 am |
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pjrhodes1970
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Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:51 am |
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ghostzapper74
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Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:03 am Posts: 4148 Location: Wales
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 Re: Debuting 2 year olds (US version)
Lumynescence wrote: Hey, here is a question seeking advice on debuting two year olds in the US version of the game. Many of my two year olds are bred to go at about 1m1f-1m5f. In the US game, all the debut races are between 5 and 6 furlongs, and they don't begin to increase to a mile until June or July--and any racing opportunities beyond 1 mile are practically nonexistent until the three year old schedule. But the problem is that many of my three year olds are showing up green when I refuse to race them as two year olds--any advice on this? It's a bit of a problem in the us version because having horses that are stayers 1m4 or more are problem horses because there are not enough race's for them to run in, any age. If i was u i would add( make up) races for stayers, if u got a dirt stayer then u have no real races to run in apart from the breeders cup marathon, and there are only afew turf races for them. In my US game i've added some races for stayers to run in, it makes it more intresting because u can only breed horse's upto a mile and 6 furlongs in the US version and there are only afew horses breed by the computer at that distance. It makes it intresting because u never know whos going to be a stayer in u game. Its the only way to go if u want longer breed horses.
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