handicap system was bought in for new trainers or casual players to give them a chance of winning a race

Steve. This not the time to throw in complaints if they are not constructive. A majority vote was called for and that is what the majority of people wanted. Everyone is working to making the league a better place. If you want to make comments please make them constructive. With the running of the new league bickering is going to be giving the back door.

I have horses that I don't know what their best trips are. One will be running in the Oaks and St Leger. It is not that easy in SO5 as opposed to earlier versions of So to run a horse 2f away from its ideal distance expecting it to run badly as this won't happen.

Yes 8f sounds about right Andy.

No worries you are doing a great job.

I'll send you the report though - you know just in case.

Steve you are clueless when it comes to the game, as you've proved with your horses in SO4 and also what you say about distance rules. Akhc has trained a horse to win a G1 at 6f and 2m in the same season. I have horses which are pretty smart over 8f at Newmarket/Ascot and will also win races over 10f at the quicker tracks. You probably also don't realise that the courses in SO5 make a huge difference as I will prove when I win the Melbourne Cup with a horse that runs in a 2m maiden in week 1 or 2.

As for saying the people that made the rules have done so to abuse it, you're out of order and again clueless. The time Leon has put into this season is huge.

You're also a liar as you said you wouldn't reply to this thread. You're also delusional with your statements of "people have asked me to build a schedule" and "people have requested the made up races" Complete nonsense.

And as for your ideas and the old schedule. Pile of crap. See ya.

1m to 2m at G1. Wouldn't want to overegg it now . Or listed race at 7f to 2m. Personally I don't think 6f to 2m is doable

a wee bit presumptuous there Matt comes accross a tad arrogant even though you prob didint mean it too though i understand what you are pointing out

i dont want any more bickering on here lads thats all in the past and its pointless

distance rules were put to a vote 2 weeks ago majority voted for the current rules NUFF SAID lets move on

Steve leaving your comments which i found to be quite negative when we are days away from closing the nomms does not help
you said you were keeping away from the forums to avoid abuse i respected that decision

but lets move forwards guys lots of possitive stuff over past 3 weeks lets not start all this rubbish again

Confidence and a well executed plan, pj. Unless of course my horse goes and wins its maiden!


Now to get back on topic and off the highway Andy raises some good points. I dont think people should be allowed to take the piss and this can be determined by the stewards. Running horse A in a 14f maiden and horse B in a 16f maiden before A then runs in a 16f handicap and B runs in a 14f handicap. This should not be allowed and would seem to taking advantage of the decent community we are starting to all enjoy. I firmly believe we have the right people in place to make the right decisions on this and any other matter concerning the flat or NH league.

Have you seen a psychiatrist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

There was a vote and the majority went for 2f either side, its as simple as that. As has been said, a mile horse wont run as badly in a 10f or 6f maiden as they would have in SO4.

The initial marks will be based on the horses best run, so anyone thinking about running a miler in a 10f and 12f maiden then dropping back to a 1m handicap, they are going to be marked on the 10f run so its not a big issue I dont think.

I will be going through every single horse in every race the first two weeks and If I see a horse running ok at 10f, maybe weakening late and then running tailed off at 12f, they might just get a few pounds on top of their 10f mark so do so at your peril.

Good Man Doc you have my 100% backing

i really don't know why any1 would cheat but that's just me honesty is always the best policy guess we not all the same though

my policy is to run all my horses at there best distance in maidens or within 1 furlong of there best distance to get a run() if no maiden available at ideal distance)
if they perform well in maidens then aim for listed & group races
if they bomb aim for handicaps but as close to there ideal distance as possible

if 1 bombs in 2 maidens then might not race it again keep that for handicap final on last week because it will have a low mark
but that horse will have raced close to its ideal distance in maidens eg 2mile horse ran in 1m7 maiden & 2mile maiden
so basicly the horse was not good enough to perform well in a maiden but could win a handicap final off a low weight i think Matt said
something similar that's not cheating basically the horse was not good enough to perform in 2 maidens that's good horse management
keeping them well in for major handicap

the maidens are going to be G1 quality anyway
if your horse finishes in top 3 in maiden its going to be contesting group races and g1s

How many races are our horses having before they get a handicap rating?
There are a few handicaps in week 2!!

THATS A GOOD POINT
i was told 2 runs
which means how can a horse enter a handicap in week 2 we need to look at that
also gamebred race in week 2 might be a dead rubber not sure any1 has uploaded any gamebreds

I thought the gamebred races were getting thrown out & change the H'caps to maidens

just spoke to Leon its going to have to be 1 race to get a mark otherwise there will be no runners in wk2
handicaps

i mentioned the gamebred races to Matt a while back when he was tinkering with schedule
they were being kept in
but as of now i dont think any1 has gamebreds uploaded so they will be dead rubbers

I have uploaded a game bred Ember days ii especially for the 1m 4f game bred race I still have three slots available I might upload another one for the sprint.