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Wannabe
Group 2 winner
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:22 pm Posts: 739 Location: Fife, Scotland
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 Re: Project Next Season
dit74 wrote: Jimmy, can you send your schedule over to me or post up a link I am looking for a short schedule for breeding and cant find one nor am I capable of making one  if you could would be great Cheers Darren I don't know if you have found a schedule yet but you can try this one. It lasts for 5 months and mostly contains group races with 4 claimmers at the start of the season, then midway thru the season and at the end of the season. You will need to download these 2 files, the schedule and the showc_f which is heavilly modified. https://app.box.com/s/56uy8n4lmqwf1sgwqguv6cpbnp2njtnlhttps://app.box.com/s/jl379h2n99l81zz9cuur263ik7wp31wjThe schedule goes in a folder something like this, documents\starters orders 6\exports\schedules\1 The showc_f file goes in program files\starters orders 6\data\1 I have used the schedule for 8 seasons hoping to find some horses in the claimmers, but so far have not found a single horse worth breeding with.
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Mon May 02, 2016 10:50 pm |
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Jesterlaugh
Handicapper
Joined: Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:35 pm Posts: 371 Location: Ipswich
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 Re: Project Next Season
i put the schedule file where you said then when i tried putting the showc_f file where you said it asked if i wanted to replace the previous file? do i replace old one or keep both?
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Wed May 04, 2016 7:02 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
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 Re: Project Next Season
Jesterlaugh wrote: i put the schedule file where you said then when i tried putting the showc_f file where you said it asked if i wanted to replace the previous file? do i replace old one or keep both? replace the old one but keep a copy of it if you ever want to go back
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Wed May 04, 2016 7:54 pm |
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Jesterlaugh
Handicapper
Joined: Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:35 pm Posts: 371 Location: Ipswich
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 Re: Project Next Season
thanks mentor 
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Wed May 04, 2016 7:54 pm |
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Jesterlaugh
Handicapper
Joined: Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:35 pm Posts: 371 Location: Ipswich
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 Re: Project Next Season
it's not working anyway :/ i just wanted a short schedule for breeding, oh well.
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Wed May 04, 2016 7:58 pm |
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Wannabe
Group 2 winner
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:22 pm Posts: 739 Location: Fife, Scotland
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 Re: Project Next Season
Jesterlaugh wrote: it's not working anyway :/ i just wanted a short schedule for breeding, oh well. Whats happening, is there an error message?
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Wed May 04, 2016 8:16 pm |
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Jesterlaugh
Handicapper
Joined: Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:35 pm Posts: 371 Location: Ipswich
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 Re: Project Next Season
Wannabe wrote: Jesterlaugh wrote: it's not working anyway :/ i just wanted a short schedule for breeding, oh well. Whats happening, is there an error message? no it's just not coming up as a schedule available
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Wed May 04, 2016 8:26 pm |
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Wannabe
Group 2 winner
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:22 pm Posts: 739 Location: Fife, Scotland
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 Re: Project Next Season
Jesterlaugh wrote: Wannabe wrote: Jesterlaugh wrote: it's not working anyway :/ i just wanted a short schedule for breeding, oh well. Whats happening, is there an error message? no it's just not coming up as a schedule available What country are you using? This is a schedule for flat UK. If you want a shorter schedule, there is an easy fix. Go into the schedule editor and change the start or end date of the schedule and save it away under a different name. This works for any schedule, even the default one.
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Wed May 04, 2016 8:52 pm |
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Jesterlaugh
Handicapper
Joined: Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:35 pm Posts: 371 Location: Ipswich
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i always use UK i'll give the other method a try - thanks 
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Wed May 04, 2016 8:53 pm |
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Githyanki
Group 1 winner
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:16 pm Posts: 2440
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 Re: Project Next Season
So i have a question, having reworked my breeding lines to factor more speed into my very potential focused lines, I have now started getting my first few full speed milers, breeding up from sprinters. My question is more about the art of the possible, are people breeding full speed into 1.2 or 1.4 best distance horses? I find my 1.6+ horses never seem to get much beyond 60% with compensating higher cruising bursts as a rule? Any insight?
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Thu May 05, 2016 9:51 am |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2498 Location: South Australia
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 Re: Project Next Season
Githyanki wrote: So i have a question, having reworked my breeding lines to factor more speed into my very potential focused lines, I have now started getting my first few full speed milers, breeding up from sprinters. My question is more about the art of the possible, are people breeding full speed into 1.2 or 1.4 best distance horses? I find my 1.6+ horses never seem to get much beyond 60% with compensating higher cruising bursts as a rule? Any insight? I'm aiming to get speed into everything!
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Thu May 05, 2016 11:47 am |
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simpleminds
Group 1 winner
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:56 pm Posts: 5746 Location: uk
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 Re: Project Next Season
I am not Breeding speed on purpose I breed my best Stallions with my best Mares Full Stop and I am not just breeding my league horses either has having a variety I think is best Talking about both codes I look at Jump Speed potential and Ability has the more important factor in the jumps side you look at my jumps stable apart from the only Gamebred Bapak pintar I think only had one faller most of my horses stand up when not being Pulled Up.
But breeding on just say Speed you are leaving out Cruising Speed etc when looking at the Top Trainers like Jalupen you got to understand I expect he breeds lots of Juveniles each season and puts lots of work into his breeding program yet he didn't Dominate the flat has both James Harrison and John (Ghost) both have Great horses and in the Jumps Leon who only started to breed about 6 weeks at the most before the season is challenging for the Title don't depend on one thing get a Full Potential horse to breed with a 80% horses and discard the Juveniles that are not up to much I think variety of abilities get you good horses.
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Thu May 05, 2016 12:09 pm |
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Githyanki
Group 1 winner
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:16 pm Posts: 2440
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As they stand my breeding lines are largely max potential, some at 3, 4 and some at 5, and I have selectively breed out deterioration whilst breeding in things like finish application, confidence and constitution etc, what I seem to lack, and from the advice here, is speed, lots of successful game horses I have in league with only say 60% extra speed, thus my late chargers make no ground and my front runners get wound in, not so much as they slow down, though some do, but more as the simply do not quicken, thus I have spent time finding full speed horses to mix with the existing high stat horses to try and get the best of both. From sprint to milers and now looking at 1.2 and 1.4.
I have loosely applied the same to my hurdle and 2m chase lines, again augmenting what is already there, most of which again lacks bottom line speed.
I guess it is really a question of sanity, mine, so I do not want to spend ages trying for a full speed full potential 1.4f horse if game mechanics prevent the existence of such a beastie.
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Thu May 05, 2016 1:13 pm |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2498 Location: South Australia
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 Re: Project Next Season
Githyanki wrote: As they stand my breeding lines are largely max potential, some at 3, 4 and some at 5, and I have selectively breed out deterioration whilst breeding in things like finish application, confidence and constitution etc, what I seem to lack, and from the advice here, is speed, lots of successful game horses I have in league with only say 60% extra speed, thus my late chargers make no ground and my front runners get wound in, not so much as they slow down, though some do, but more as the simply do not quicken, thus I have spent time finding full speed horses to mix with the existing high stat horses to try and get the best of both. From sprint to milers and now looking at 1.2 and 1.4.
I have loosely applied the same to my hurdle and 2m chase lines, again augmenting what is already there, most of which again lacks bottom line speed.
I guess it is really a question of sanity, mine, so I do not want to spend ages trying for a full speed full potential 1.4f horse if game mechanics prevent the existence of such a beastie. I can't comment much because I've only won a few lowly hcp's but for me, after being given a tip off and then paying more attention to my breeding - I have realised that speed is what is letting my horses down. I have played the one game for approx. 80 seasons now and have been breeding just with my successful horses.....so I have some good bars but it is the two speed bars that I am now pushing. I also realised that my two best ever in game horses that I have bred - the thing they both had that the others didn't was alright speed bars. Time will tell and with the league in full swing and my involvement, it is slowing down my breeding...but that is ok! I have achieved what I set out for in joining the league and that is understanding just where I stand with quality and learning and realising what I have to do to be more competitive. Next season is now my goal and instead of horses dropping out around the 2 to 3 furlong I hope my horses are still running on at the post.
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Thu May 05, 2016 1:50 pm |
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alan-mac92
Selling plater
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:31 pm Posts: 19 Location: Carlow
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 Re: Project Next Season
I only bred 3/4 of my horses about 2 weeks before the league and during the league because I had to restart my lines because I was messing around with horses I downloaded on here the last few months, some serious monsters , I know you guys didn't like docs hacking but for me I had great crack messing around with the Frankel and black cavier offspring , even bred one with musical bliss(amazing mare) ,and the were machines. My point been there speed and cruising burst were both near full or very high. And I'm so thick I never copped on to this til I was reading all your tips  I was always wondering why a sprinter stallion bred with a staying mare produced class stakes and classic horses because the speed trait would pass on. Luckily unknown to me I had near enough full speed bar and high cruising burst in my legit breeding lines and that's why I have some pretty good horses. I also will say take your time and don't go mad into the stats too much because it will take the enjoyment out of the game and when you do get your monster its a bit more special when your playing the game naturally. I actually don't even know if I made any points or tips but just giving my experience of what I took from the game. Oh and also be careful of downloading other peoples horses and breeding with them, I screwed my lines up and had to start all over again with first gens. I never thought I would join the league and that's why I wasn't carful but anyhow lesson learned.
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