Have found it very frustrating at times too I'm on season 17 and have not made any real progress at the moment it looks
impossible to find a winning formula to breeding i'd say 99.99% of the horses I have bred have been instantly retired from
the game either unraceable or just poor horses when you do find a good game sire and then the next year you send all your
mares to him and he produces nothing its a bit soul destroying at the moment it feels a little like pin the tail on the donkey
blindfolded there does not seem to be any consistency to breeding it's very much hit and hope I guess we have to stick with
it and try and find a way its a massive challenge and goodness knows what the next league will look like I still have no exported
horses.

Again i would like to make very clear these are not criticisms no one is a bigger fan of this series than me I think my 14,000 posts
in this forum is testament to this I'm just really struggling with the game right now but it takes alot for me to give up on anything
as im pigheaded

I have no issues horses are improving year on year. Starting to get some real good ones now on season 12

I'm going around in circles but I've only played 6 seasons Yet to find any decent computer stallion though hopefully I've seen one this season. No Long distance stayers for me on the flat , my US game only breeds up to 2 miles. If u think the flat is tough have a go at the jumps now that really is hard

I'm going around in circles but I've only played 6 seasons Yet to find any decent computer stallion though hopefully I've seen one this season. No Long distance stayers for me on the flat , my US game only breeds up to 2 miles. If u think the flat is tough have a go at the jumps now that really is hard My only complaint is that the computer doesn't breed enough to our stallions , my good sprinter never gets anyone .

I did 18 seasons in my first game and got absolutely nowhere, I restarted and restocked a breeding line, the second game has gone a little better I have jump wins to G2 chase and hurdle and G1 sprint wins from the best of the worst I have bred, 70% potential and I only kept it too gamble on for a cash injection.

What is quite interesting is as soon as that horse won a G1 everyone wanted to breed with his sire, who though he has 100% potential just keep breeding 30-60. It is that fact breeding is basically just luck that ticks me off, there is no skill is carefully matching attributes to get a progressive outcome it is just random luck and flaw as to what gets passed down and right now i hate it

I'm on season 32 and now that I have some decent horses, (all my horses in the barn are only 98% potential so far), I see more consistancy in breeding. Probably about 20% of the horses I breed from my own stable are between 95-98% potential. If I breed with AI stallions, the results are much more random.

Still the same problem with the dark green bar though. Maybe only 2 or 3 horses from 50 foals each year fill out the dark green bar.

Paul, I have not used the latest update yet, but I hope it does help with the dark green potential bar.




I have 2 stallions in the barn that are in full demand for breeding by the AI. The AI does not seem to breed with my horses that have won 15 x G1 races, it wants to breed with horses that have a proven breeding record. The 2 stallions that are in demand are not my best potential horses, nor did they win more than 5 G1 races, but they have all bred multiple G1 winners by my own mares.

The last season or two some of the horses the AI has bred from my stallions are starting to enter races and are winning a few G1 races.

Nice to see you back Jim

Hi Jim , are u playing the jumps!!!

I find the jumps side of breeding awful , the mares that come up for sale are normally 12+ so they are useless and most of the horses I breed but sell retire at 5 or 6 and so they disappear . Its like the computer is using the flat breeding system for the jumps game.

Hi John

Mainly playing a flat game so far. Had a bash at a combined game for a few seasons but didn't like the default schedule and haven't got around to making my own. From what you have said, I'll give the jumps a miss until after the new year when I will have more time to spend on it. The next two weeks will be hectic with family obligations.

It took me a long time to come to grips with flat breeding and breed a successful string of horses. It took every bit of knowledge I gained with SO6. I pitty any casual player of SO7 who has only a few hours a week to play the game. I have probably spent about 100 hours over the last 4 weeks comming to grips with breeding.

I don't want breeding to be as easy as SO6 where once you had good horses they repeated themselves very easily but SO7 is still needing a few tweaks, mainly to the dark green potential bar, so that it will give the casual player a chance of breeding a few good horses. I don't know what a successful breeding percentge is in real life but for a game and the casual player I would like to see at least 10% of the horses you breed have the dark green bar catch up to the light green bar, even if it is only maxed out at 75%. At the moment it is only about 3%.


On a slightly different topic. Have you noticed that some AI horses seem to be running far above their potential bar? What makes me think this was I had an 8f horse with 98% dark green potential and he was beaten by about 3 lengths in about 5 races by the same AI horse. The AI horse came into the breeding barn with 11 x G1 wins and for 3 seasons I bred 5 x 98% potential mares with him and never producd a single horse with more than 75% potential. I would love to know just what the AI horses real potential bar looked like.

My first save was brutal also. I had nothing. Then I restarted and focused everything into multiple breeding stock and finally have had two excellent horses to retire to stud that got 'trophies' and won the US triple crown. They're just now producing two year olds that have honestly been just meh. My first g1 winner to stud has had mixed foals. Worth noting, the best horse I've had racing wise had a low potential bar. I almost sold him.

Also, my best mare I noticed a mare winning every single selling race. like 6 of them. Picked her up, g3 win, then g1 wins. lmao. I still can't believe it.

Jim, even in so6 the AI horses ran well beyond there ability on paper, I have seen the same here, I also think if you cycle only one season in a new game to start with the AI horses are bad and you can pick up wins in races with horses who are really not up to snuff.

And I am a little harsher in my view, I do not think it needs tweaks, but a big change or even a rethink. To anyone not devoting hundreds and hundreds of hours to the game, the big races and any sustained success seem all but unachieavble in my view, and though getting such amounts of play from a game is typically a good thing, there is no return or reward or feeling of progression as you go, just breeding luck good and more often than not bad. I throughly enjoyed SO6 and likely have thousands of hours in it, I throughly dislike so7 at the moment, and I am really trying to like it but the single word that sums it up for me right now is tedious and I can think of many that are more colourful.

I don't mind them being better than their bars but I think u should have a 10% chance to breed horses and they come out how they should , im not sure its even 1% at this moment I'm away for over a week at Christmas and it will be interesting to see if people can improve their horses by the time I come back . I do wonder if we are all hung up over getting a full potential green bar, perhaps we need to clear our thoughts over how we used to breed.

I've got to admit that I wont be getting into breeding for the league( just putting in what I breed) but if u like breeding for the league it would be a massive slog if this game stays like this.

100 times harder for sure not even sure yet its possible to get 50 horses together for a league maybe in 5 years time

The league maybe in my thoughts, but it is a secondary consideration to actually enjoying the game first. There maybe a league racekit there maybe not, there maybe enough people punishing themselves trying to get a team though right now I doubt it. But before all that I’d just settle for being able to buy a good horse and have some hope in hell of using that good horse to breed another, without having to make playing this game a 24/7 task, not that this is assured to help either as the poor creature will likely expire long before it ever achieves the heady task and your back to where you started buying hundreds of horses hoping for a miracle.