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HurricaneRun
Group 1 winner
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:12 pm Posts: 2134 Location: Newcastle England
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 Jockeys on SO5
Just wanted to see what other people think about this, as Mark indicated that the jockeys would be better in SO5 in terms of being more tactically astute - basically they were meant to lose their moron tag and actually have the ability to see gaps and avoid getting locked in
Well my opinion is that the jockeys are no different and to test it I consciously watched each race over one season in my game and noted down the number of poor rides and poor rides which, by evidence of the horse flashing home late and just failing, cost me big races. The percentage of poor rides was over 40% and 30% of the group races i lost were due to poor jockeys!!The only answer I have to this is to breed race handy horses!!!
Even pace horses in so4 tended to be ok but in so5 a lot of my even pace horses are being given awful rides and losing when they really shudnt
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Tue May 01, 2012 8:17 pm |
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cotch
Handicapper
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:02 am Posts: 122
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 Re: Jockeys on SO5
while my knowledge isnt great, i have to agree in regards to how jockeys have ridden my horses.
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Tue May 01, 2012 8:33 pm |
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Mitch
Selling plater
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:45 pm Posts: 97
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 Re: Jockeys on SO5
if my horse is restrained at all it loses, the jockey runs into the back on another horse everytime
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Tue May 01, 2012 9:03 pm |
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HurricaneRun
Group 1 winner
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:12 pm Posts: 2134 Location: Newcastle England
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 Re: Jockeys on SO5
exactly true - so AI of jockeys has not improved at all
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Wed May 02, 2012 2:48 am |
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SuperCat
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:19 am Posts: 2055
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 Re: Jockeys on SO5
I actually disagree with this. I think jockey AI is loads better. If you watch a race you see jockeys going around horses and not running up something else's backside just to get the inner. However I do think that STILL jockeys are taking 'slight hold up' or 'don't lead' to far, most of my drop in horses end up trailing the field then making great ground at the end. So this aspect does need looking at as jockeys given orders are still getting too far behind. Overall though I think it has been a big improvement, it would be good if the hold up rides could be looked at though.
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Wed May 02, 2012 9:26 am |
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Mitch
Selling plater
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:45 pm Posts: 97
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 Re: Jockeys on SO5
I think the other tactics are fine, my jockeys ride well at even pace, ride handy usually leaves the horse with nothing in the final furlong and gets outpaced but that could just be the horse/distance. Big problem with horses that are held up though, they beat small fields easily because they can run through them but can't get through a bigger field. I might start telling the jockey to stick to the side of the course away from the other horses and see if that helps at all
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Wed May 02, 2012 12:31 pm |
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Gold Impact
Selling plater
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:51 pm Posts: 86
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 Re: Jockeys on SO5
I am of the opinion thatAI of jockey betterthan SO4, although occasionally you setll get held up. Its frustrating, but less so than SO4. 
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Wed May 02, 2012 3:33 pm |
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Solarwarrior
Selling plater
Joined: Wed May 02, 2012 6:04 pm Posts: 21
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 Re: Jockeys on SO5
Only just downloaded the game so unable to compare to previous versions...but as a Betting shop manager watching untold amount of races each day 30-40% of jockeys giving a poor ride is probably quite realistic... If thats intentional by the programmers or not is another matter....
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Wed May 02, 2012 6:09 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
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 Re: Jockeys on SO5
welcome mate
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Wed May 02, 2012 6:21 pm |
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cotch
Handicapper
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:02 am Posts: 122
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 Re: Jockeys on SO5
Every horse of mine is rode early pace or held up, on SO4 they used to always go for even pace which dominated, pretty annoying clicking "even pace" every race.
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Wed May 02, 2012 7:48 pm |
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keithbeaky
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:47 pm Posts: 2407 Location: UK
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 Re: Jockeys on SO5
I have a few NH horses who want holding up and I think the jockey has come wide every time he has needed to. On the flat I get the odd one boxed in, but its just to how the race has unfolded rather than him running up the arse of the horses ahead.
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Wed May 02, 2012 8:29 pm |
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