My horse was third in that race beaten 13 lengths and is rated 143. I know who I would fancy in a handicap

I don't know what leon wants yet will discuss the schedule with him I think a Blank canvas but some will want to keep the paul moores series see what leon wants he's the boss lol I know the Novice schedules need doing.

The whole schedule needs doing, if there was a more natural progression for all horses handicapping would be a little easier. I definitely wouldn't volunteer myself because I won't have enough time, but we do need a handicapper. The ratings are a bit of a joke for NH. The game over-rates staying races so much that I'm sure it has rated many horses out of some of the top handicaps for the season.

The whole schedule does need doing. There's no point doing anything with it now though. Ideas and improvements can be discussed, like a lot more novice races, as the season runs but we need everyones view at the end of the season. A discussion on the forum is the way to go. That way we can use the best ideas from everyone and go with what the majority want.

I never knew Paul but I'd be in favour of keeping the Moores Millions out of respect.

I'd put my name down for h'capping the Jumpers. I've got spare time, but u never know in a couple of months. I think every horse should start with a rating of 120.

No, nothing can or should be done now. We'll have to deal with it for a season, I meant for the future. I would happily get involved with designing a schedule, and I would love to get involved with handicapping; but I have a bit of a busy time ahead of me!

I think 100 is a nice round number, 120 is quite high if you're talking about handicaps starting in week 3. A horse would have to run pretty badly twice for its rating to come down enough to be competitive in a 0-110.

I think 120 because u can then reach number's that real horses get( around the 160), the winners of the maidens could go u to 130+ and the horses that finish out the back would go down to the 110's.
Who ever end up's handicapping next season should go by the real ratings.

But you could still reach 160+ if you started on 100, it just means that we can have much lower rated horses contesting 0-100 or 0-90 chases later on in the season. I have talked to Leon a little about having a schedule with more mares' races and more lower handicaps, though this would depend upon handicap ratings which can be reviewed at the end of the season. I envisage the schedule with two or three top meetings with top races, plus 1 meeting at a 'lower' course like Towcester, Stratford etc with similar races, but an all handicap/maiden card for horses who just don't cut it at the higher levels. I think this would make it more realistic, but it would depend upon having lots of trainers with lots of different abilities of horse.

Also definitely keep the Moore's Millions, he did so much for the league and supported it for so long it would almost be blasphemy to get rid of it.

Plus I think two people should end up h'capping, one for the chaser's and one for the hurdlers. Otherwise it could be a full time Job. Plus next season the Lesser Trainers( I'm one of them) will get better, and so the difference between the top horse's and the Donkey's will shrink.

Ratings should start at 100 the problem is not the ratings the horse starts with it's what the rating the race kit gives after the race hence some horse's having a hefty hike in the weights.

I would like to see lower Handicaps in the schedule like 0-90 0-100 but we may have what happens in the flat people like putting horse's in big race's even when there on handicaps their horse's could enter but again something to discuss about the future.

I agree, if you haven't already read it refer to my post above about having a/some 'lesser' course(s) running each week.

I don't think the structure of the handicaps or initial rating is a problem. If its not broken don't fix it. The handicapping is. What you need ideally is 1 person to do the handicapping ( which mean updating all the horse files ) and another person that then uses this data to update Tom. This is what is happening in the flat at the moment

These are the issues.

No proper novice program ( Ideally we need a certain amount of novice races each week )
* some for hurdles
* some for chases
with a good distance spread
First 2 weeks maidens and thereafter handicaps and feature races

a better spread of distance in the first 2 weeks. The moores Millions is good for the staying races but there needs to be some staying maidens in week 1

The other races need to be divided into distance spreads and hurdles and chasers and handicaps and feature races

The basic schedule is good except for the first 2 weeks . But a better novice campaign needs to be added.

We need a simplification of the rules. I'm for having a horse that stays a novice the whole season. SO you will in week 1 or 2 choose whether a horse will be a novice by entering the horse in a novice race. This could also be done when you upload the horse. This will make it easier to write code for entries into races over the season and will mean the rules are simpler as a horse is either a novice or it isn't

When people put they horses into tom perhaps u should have to enter what division u want u horses to run, like hurdler or chaser or novice chaser or novice hurdler. If u want to be a novice hurdler or novice chaser perhaps u let them run in every race apart from the Grade1 races or perhaps all graded races apart from the G3 h'caps.

When people put they horses into tom perhaps u should have to enter what division u want u horses to run, like hurdler or chaser or novice chaser or novice hurdler. If u want to be a novice hurdler or novice chaser perhaps u let them run in every race apart from the Grade1 races or perhaps all graded races apart from the G3 h'caps



What About NHFLAT HORSE OR HUNTER CHASER I now keep a Track of my horse's in the league on a spreadsheet so I know which horse's can run in which races i.e novice or not I learnt after week two with scratchings to do this or on upload type in Comments Novice Hurdler / Novice Chaser etc etc.

Bumper horses are separate because they can only run in Juvenile hurdle races, or perhaps it should be like real life and they cant run in hurdle races.

And I would discontinue with The foxhunters and put in the Rewards4racing Novice H'cap Chase instead.