Im quite sure in this thread Andy has been accused of cheating? Its ridiculous how this thread got to that stage. As pointed out by yourself it was first celebrated that this had been found and then turned very quickly. Jealousy is a nasty thing

Most of mine are British and none have been transferred between countries.

ah so it didnt take long to descend into anarchy from what i can see the only thing to do is carry on as before the good thing now is its out there i doubt very much if mark can re address this before the new season starts perhaps SO6 can be prepared to eradicate this.anyhow i would say carry on breeding get yourself some superhorses and prepare for a new league in the full knowledge that we all now know how to make superhorses.....or am i being too hopeful commen sense to prevail for the sake of the league.

The sarcasm would most probably be directed almost completely at me. Sadly my 'great mind' has been rather preoccupied with real life recently, so I haven't taken too much notice of this. But read what we wrote the other day about how nasty the league once was. Many of these posts are beginning to read almost exactly like those of the past. Discuss away, but accusations won't be tolerated, this thread will be locked and/or deleted if the posts continue in this manner.

Just wondering that's all, as those in ck from Aus I believe showed no improvement anyway so it's irrelevant
I believe there has been no cheating on Andy's part, why would he ask for mark to verify unless he has some inside track on the workings of the game and was able to erase any traces of cheating, which is unlikely. Technically it isn't cheating anyway, it's just exploiting a loophole in the game, like making multiple copies of a horse and breeding off them multiple times in one generation. The problem is that the knowledge was not available to everyone.

Jalupen: what needs to be asserted is whether these Australian horses exported into a British game then pass on their superior ability to the next generation, as if this is not the case then it won't have given anyone a jump start with their breeding.

Sigh, this is my thinking. If it's all out in the open people can choose to use it or not. But it is causing nastiness and jealousies.

It would be good to hear why the game is working like this though. The horses should be 6 months more advanced than UK horses, but that doesn't explain why only Aus horses have max potential and 2/3, even I've had a test in the last half an hour and even my horses have max potential at 3 and I must have some of THE latest maturing lines in the league. Strange.

I just think that if mark closes the loophole, people will have no cause to complain and the problem will be dealt with. I would prefer that, as I would rather breed on the uk schedule as being British I prefer that, also I would like all schedules and countries to be equal, and that includes making it so Ireland isn't detrimental to horses in ck.
maybe the way forward is if the game mechanics are unrevised le and Australian 3yos always are more mature, maybe a small WFA as seen in Dubai could be used if it is detectable where a horse was bred e.g an Aus bred horse carries a couple of pounds more

My sarcasm was aimed at this thread, why would it be at you? Strange way of thinking.


Which posts are reading like those of the past? I think its outrageous that Andy has had to defend himself at all.

Exactly those- the scrapping between Paul, doc and Andy I believe are the ones meant by that. I agree, Andy shouldn't have had to defend himself, though maybe what Doc said was taken out of context which does happen on forums, and if you do read the initial post there are 2 ways of looking at it, but afterwards it got a bit nasty.

the bottom line is its a game and as such they will always have little quirks that enable you to do something out of the ordinary unless someone actually tampers with the programming it will never be cheating most of these things are stumbled upon accidently and its up to the person who finds it to have some morals rather than exploit it thats if fair play comes into it.and how many of the SO series has this affected? thats what i would like to know ah well back to my aussie game.....yes that was a joke.chill out guys breed your monsters but have fun doing it cos if its not fun then it aint worth doing..still love this game but the aussie game is REALLY boring pj u gotta do a 2yo schedule for australia cos its crap.

That is not an option. Do that and new players who want to join the league are at a severe disadvantage as they won't know about this unless they read the forum. This is clearly a bug/exploit and the only thing to do is to close it.

Mark has stated that he can detect if people have swapped ttf.dat files for breeding no matter how long ago it occured. That suggests that he has some way of tracking the digital DNA of these horses. Hopefully this information can be used to modify horses that have benefited from this exploit and some method set up to stop this exploit.

We really need an answer soonish as to what is happening. If there's a software patch that can fix this then great. If not and we're looking at a reset then the sooner we know the better as I wouldn't want to waste time breeding horses that cannot be used in the league. It would be nice if Mark was to post something about what he is doing to rectify this.

This is really my last statement on this matter as I don't think there's any point rehashing old ground. If you think Doc's statement is in anyway unclear about what he is accusing me of doing then I think we'll have to agree to disagree and I also think you're a ______ (feel free to fill the blank in - after all this is an ambiguous statement and you could use any number of nouns) .

i have noticed that when they run in ck even though they have been saved out of a uk game they still have an aussie flag next to them so it looks as though even if its uploaded it still remains an aussie horse surly this is quite easy to detect ?

Yes but the question no one had answered is do they breed better as in do their offspring have the same times in CK or do they revert to previous times.

now thats the million dollar question if they breed good in the uk game and if their offspring produce just as good of times.. either way I am happy I was able to find a great gamebred stallion that I found thanks to your guide akhc and the offspring was able to beat my best league horses before i found about the aussie thing and the problem was he was early pace and passed this trait to all of them and with a little help from duke I infused some held up into the line..then I tried what paul was showing and to my amazement my times have improved by 1 sec on the mile..I know getting max at three helps but you also got to get good 2yos that can get at least 90 percent potential in the first place to achieve this..at least I know I am improving even without the assuie game because I would have never thought my 2 year olds would get 90 max and when they hit 5 they would be max on uk game this is thanks to you akhc..by league horse Blazer Stallion is just 85 max potential and she is 4..

Thanks for the kind words Keenan. With regard to your breeding I'm sure you will find better horses. It is in the nature of the game that horses get better although this is a process that can be accelerated by design. I haven't really done anything aside from post some very general advice. The only thing I can say is try and select horses that have higher potential at 3 and keep breeding with some game horses to find those fillies/mares. It really is a question of finding the right fillies. Once you either have the game fillies or your own that have close to max potential things will get easier.

Good luck.