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				 pjrhodes1970 
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					 Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
				 
				 
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						ghostzapper74 wrote: I've just had a look at this weeks group 1's and apart from Andy's front runner in the derby it looks like a lot of them have no pace in them. I think there's going to be a lot of frustrated trainers next week. im past being frustrated take the results as they come its a bit of fun for the 2nd year in a row i should have concentrated on NHC  doing far better over there with no time or effort put in    & my namesake is a little superstar big week for my novice chaser Paul Rhodes  
					
  
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				 ghostzapper74 
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					 Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:03 am Posts: 4168 Location: Wales
				 
				 
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						pjrhodes1970 wrote: ghostzapper74 wrote: I've just had a look at this weeks group 1's and apart from Andy's front runner in the derby it looks like a lot of them have no pace in them. I think there's going to be a lot of frustrated trainers next week. im past being frustrated take the results as they come its a bit of fun for the 2nd year in a row i should have concentrated on NHC  doing far better over there with no time or effort put in    & my namesake is a little superstar big week for my novice chaser Paul Rhodes My baby( Twin Oaks)is coming after u Paul Rhodes     it's one nil to u, but its a furlong longer so it's getting closer to 3 miles.  Does u horse stay three miles if so it could be a battle all the way to the Sun Alliance at Cheltenham.    
					
  
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				 pjrhodes1970 
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					 Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
				 
				 
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						ghostzapper74 wrote: pjrhodes1970 wrote: ghostzapper74 wrote: I've just had a look at this weeks group 1's and apart from Andy's front runner in the derby it looks like a lot of them have no pace in them. I think there's going to be a lot of frustrated trainers next week. im past being frustrated take the results as they come its a bit of fun for the 2nd year in a row i should have concentrated on NHC  doing far better over there with no time or effort put in    & my namesake is a little superstar big week for my novice chaser Paul Rhodes My baby( Twin Oaks)is coming after u Paul Rhodes     it's one nil to u, but its a furlong longer so it's getting closer to 3 miles.  Does u horse stay three miles if so it could be a battle all the way to the Sun Alliance at Cheltenham.   Stays 3 miles but not sure about 3 miles around cheltenham so maybe Ryanair Chase is an option  but Golden Miller Novices' Chase G2 most likely  
					
  
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				 simpleminds 
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					 Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:56 pm Posts: 5757 Location: uk
				 
				 
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						pjrhodes1970 wrote: ghostzapper74 wrote: I've just had a look at this weeks group 1's and apart from Andy's front runner in the derby it looks like a lot of them have no pace in them. I think there's going to be a lot of frustrated trainers next week. im past being frustrated take the results as they come its a bit of fun for the 2nd year in a row i should have concentrated on NHC  doing far better over there with no time or effort put in    & my namesake is a little superstar big week for my novice chaser Paul Rhodes Finally someone agrees with me that it's easier to train winners over the jumps than flat the flat is way to competitive      and after all that time you spent on milers Paul      turned out to be better jumpers     
					
						_________________simple in mind but wonderful in young lifehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNzbn9 ... idx5pNkHaQ 
					
  
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				 pjrhodes1970 
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					 Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
				 
				 
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						simpleminds wrote: pjrhodes1970 wrote: ghostzapper74 wrote: I've just had a look at this weeks group 1's and apart from Andy's front runner in the derby it looks like a lot of them have no pace in them. I think there's going to be a lot of frustrated trainers next week. im past being frustrated take the results as they come its a bit of fun for the 2nd year in a row i should have concentrated on NHC  doing far better over there with no time or effort put in    & my namesake is a little superstar big week for my novice chaser Paul Rhodes Finally someone agrees with me that it's easier to train winners over the jumps than flat the flat is way to competitive      and after all that time you spent on milers Paul      turned out to be better jumpers        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc 
					
  
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				 ghostzapper74 
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					 Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:03 am Posts: 4168 Location: Wales
				 
				 
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						I'm a bit like u in that I started breeding jump horses very late(  got lucky because my flat horse had jumping ability), I started breeding with jump horses and dirt horses and every now and then I still get dirt breed jump horses. Its a shame there's no dirt jump races LOL.
  I struggle to breed 2 and a half mile horses, I just cant get any good ones over that distance.
  I think the jumps are more competitive( and more fun) than the flat because not all the big races are group 1 like the flat so all trainers have a chance to win a big one like Hennessy/Welsh/Grand National. Plus there's more front runners over jumps and so most of the races are true run races. 
					
  
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				 pjrhodes1970 
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						ghostzapper74 wrote: I'm a bit like u in that I started breeding jump horses very late(  got lucky because my flat horse had jumping ability), I started breeding with jump horses and dirt horses and every now and then I still get dirt breed jump horses. Its a shame there's no dirt jump races LOL.
  I struggle to breed 2 and a half mile horses, I just cant get any good ones over that distance.
  I think the jumps are more competitive( and more fun) than the flat because not all the big races are group 1 like the flat so all trainers have a chance to win a big one like Hennessy/Welsh/Grand National. Plus there's more front runners over jumps and so most of the races are true run races. good points  
					
  
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				 pjrhodes1970 
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					 Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
				 
				 
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						RACE 1 Figarowa came UnPlaced  wow very poor she is gone outta here milers are a disaster RACE 2 Our Henry came 4th another solid run gave weight away all round was outpaced Golden Jubilee should suit him well RACE 4 Conrad Ivan came  2nd lost his unbeaten record but a great showing im sure he will win more races just beat RACE 5 Comprende came  3rd top weight here gave 2 ahead of 9 lbs so ran a cracker appears 7 suits him  unfortunately that was his last race he has retired RACE 10 Braintree came 4th  have been trialing with the winner Baziba he loves a handy lead and was unstoppable well done Andy i hope to have something to take you on in window Braintree 4th in the derby wow that was unexpected happy with that  
  1 x 2nd 1 x 3rd 2 x 4th 
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				 jalupen 
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						mixed emotions today but overall very good 1 superstar winner 3 seconds 9th 10th & 12th
  R1-power of possession (12th) blocked in top weight 
  R2-Gas Me Up(2nd)stayed on really well beaten by a good horse
  R5-Cactus Kate(9th) yet another shocking ride!
  Oaks-Frozen In Time(2nd) Ran a cracker looked the winner 1f out
  R7-trypswytch(2nd)fine run and last run out to grass
  Coronation Cup-Bunil (1st)outstanding performance now a dual group 1 winner over 1m2f and 1m4f absolute superstar!
  Derby-green man(10th) S.Kelly yet again! given no chance worst of all I downloaded andys horse and trialled them no pacemakers same conditions and my fella beats him 7/10 times absolute joke of a ride! 
					
  
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				 keenanbrown 
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						Not so good for me today 1 3rd only one placed     congrats all winners and placers  
					
  
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				 Kevcon 
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						R1 Ned Kelly (13th) - was going ok till the jockey took a pull. never going after and was well beaten. R3 Wild Blue Yonder (3rd) - ran well, just wasn't good enough. R10 Happy Ranger (7th) - ran on last furlong but never on terms.
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				 leonvr 
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						Ecstatic that I won the oaks.  I did point out I fancied Home Made a while back and she rallied really well to get up close home.   Of the others Rife ran well with a penalty.  
					
  
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				 pjrhodes1970 
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						leonvr wrote: Ecstatic that I won the oaks.  I did point out I fancied Home Made a while back and she rallied really well to get up close home.   Of the others Rife ran well with a penalty. congrats on the classic Leon  
					
  
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				 keithbeaky 
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						What a race the Oaks was!! Cant believe Move Over got beat after hitting the front. But well done to Leon and it was a truly run race!!
  Coronation and Derby were over after 1f. Everyone has their gripes with the game this year but slowly run races and how some of the courses favour front runners has to be fixed in SO6. Epsom is a joke. 
					
  
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				 Cairns123 
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						leonvr wrote: Ecstatic that I won the oaks.  I did point out I fancied Home Made a while back and she rallied really well to get up close home.   Of the others Rife ran well with a penalty. Congrats on the classic win, was a brilliant race to watch!! A good day for me also, Pelacacci getting a deserved success in the 7f 3yo listed race, after she had run 2 blinders in the English and Irish guineas. already bettered my total of winners than last season, so happy days.  
					
  
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