phew All trialed out so left the 4 mile trials til later down the line

so started on my 3 milers Dunguib x Tin Science they have produced a lovely colt and filly in 1st crop
forgive the spelling it was rushed
high hopes for this line
hopeful i will get a gold cup horse or a RSA horse out of it or both
right time for a break looking forward to a visit to the pub later i need a beer

Guinness for all on Rhodes

sound bloomin great id eat a pint

Ok so bred and trialed some 3m hurdlers & chasers and some gold cup horses
im not sure how good the gold cup horses are i only had 3 eyed fish and hot dog condom style to
trial against and they were brutal in the lge but these newbies hammered them
also not sure how good the 3 mile hurdlers are lythical true swiss and daring looper did ok in lge but struggle to stay 3 miles
one things for sure got no where near Ghostzappers times even though i trial on 5yo + they were a good 7 8 secs off
so no doubt in the future i will come back to these distances and breed the best of these with each other to try and
find better but for now my team has 15 members

have some 2m4 - 2m5 hurdlers and chasers and some 3m5 - 4m hurdlers and chasers to trail next

Don't bother with 3m5f-4m hurdlers, I don't think there are really any races over more than 3m for hurdlers in the league.

Paul I think times can be a bit misleading because they never go that fast in the league, even my two Twin Oaks and Greenbank Park run quicker fractions in my game trails than they do in the league.

Take these two horses for instance.

Shawiya 110050000 rated 122
Tourist Attraction 52163311 rated 150+ (3 grade 1 wins)

U look at those two horses thinking there's a massive deference but in my trials they had the same amount of ability. Some horses love the leagues style of racing and other horses hate it. It's a crap shoot and sometimes luck comes into it.

yes i have done no hurdle trials over 3m5 - 4m as there are no races that was written in error

Hi Mate yes i was told by experienced trainers in NHC a few years ago not to worry about times its more about consistency especially
in national hunt

Updating the dual champs & Cup soon dreading to see how badly you hammered me

trialed the 2 mile 5ers
so here my team to date subject to change and knowing me there will be plenty

I've been running my trails the last three weeks and should be finished by tomorrow, just the 2m4 f hurdlers to do. I've got it down to 12 horses in each category. I've finish my jumping breeding until the new year when i'll do a little more then run the Finals Trials.

A few new team members to show you
Squad has 24 in it now



Dundee Sheela is incredibly talented distance wise
she won my 2m5 chase trials was 2nd in the 3 mile trials and excels over the gold cup trip
winning the 3m2 chase trials
never had a horse be so constant over that wide of distance
again i have no clue how competitive the times are

I need another gold cup horse so will be breeding the heck
out of Sheela prob crossed with Alvaro Di Matteo who dominated the 3m trials
but its back to my 2m5 & 3 mile hurdlers need 1 more each of them

Paul I like my three milers to go sub 6.00, but I use open. Plus my horses are front runners so it's easier for me to get even run races.

I think Dundee Sheela best distance is 3m2 going by those times, i think she should be gold cup class time wise.

Cheers ghostzapper she will have a few options come lge time but agree gold cup has to be main target

just bred this nice fellow
won Champion hurdle by 5 lengths
Aintree hurdle by 7 lengths
and Puchestown Champ Hurdle by 9 lengths



will ck trial him when he turns 5

wow decent in ck at 3 miles

I've just run a couple of trials Paul and my current league horses run ~ 2-10 secs faster than yours at 2m5f, 3m and 3m2f. I don't think times really mean anything at all over the jumps, but if you are aiming for times then you might have to go quite a bit quicker because most of my current league horses aren't even graded class.

Personally though I think it is more to do with consistency and jumping ability than times.