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Legends - I think i'd feel slightly proud if i trained one to beat Kauto Star in a King George, or Istabraq in a champion hurdle... good idea me thinks.

League - I hope its changed in some way that levels the playing field here, i'd like to parcipitate in the online league but i personally dont have the time that others spend breeding, it seems almost life consuming to me.

Also i think the option to have horses always primed without training should be scrapped altogether, this would bring a new dimension to the league as players would have a new challenge to getting they're horses right for entry, there is a lot to consider without automatically being primed like fitness, condition, weight and i think the players who do the primed thing lose out on a lot of interesting gameplay, and i think a league trainer could actually be called a trainer because as it is when you think about it your not really training your horse when it is automatically in peak fitness, weight etc.. # just sayin

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I found out about ttf files the same time it was posted on here I think it was andy or might of been dochay not sure still even me knowing about have not made me a great league trainer and trainers like ghost have passed me so its the time you spend on constant breeding gets you to the top.

I think it was Jamie who said about letting trainers know about things Paul when the league is over again not sure so if I am wrong sorry Jamie :) one thing I did try and get a advantage was make up Claiming races over 4m 4f over jumps and 2m 4f on the flat I claim the horses winning these races and breed with them looking for National an gold cup horse and failed because my gold cup horses and Grand National horses are still not good enough.

Breeding your horses with legends is currently not allowed and would probably cause league related problems. I may change my mind as time goes on though. So to be clear. Players WILL NOT train/own legends. Legends may be trained by the correct trainer and may also have jockey attachments.

The statement clearly states at the moment it is not allowed again I like the idea of legends in the game and I am not sure if breeding with legends is all that bad has we all start off breeding with the in game horses anyway.

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Regarding the legends add on to so6, I wouldn't use it myself as pj has already said it would be unrealistic bringing former champions back,but seeing as players get a choice weather to include them or not I think its a good idea, as everyone plays the game differently,im not sure about the breeding from legends though as this might cause problems with breeding etc,im counting down the days for its arrival. :o


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Good to see there are no shortcuts didn't think there would be! Do people find just breeding the quickest filly with quickest stallion over the same distance producers results or is it a bit more random than that.

Also what's the Ttf thing people are taking about thunk that was before my time


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Good to see there are no shortcuts didn't think there would be! Do people find just breeding the quickest filly with quickest stallion over the same distance producers results or is it a bit more random than that.

Also what's the Ttf thing people are taking about thunk that was before my time


Random breeding is best, I found breeding the best with the best doesn't work, plus having horses over different distances is best.

TTF files is just saving u best horses so u can keep breeding with them.


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TTF files is just saving u best horses so u can keep breeding with them.



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i agree breeding the best with best don't always work, i sent 1 horse to stud second season who wasnt even a listed winner let alone group winner and i got one hell of a horse, only beaten twice so even breeding with crap horses can produce good horses.

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S05

i wrote this before i found this thread but it seems to fit in here for newbs q.s and to ask the experts trainer/breeders :)

breeding

is there a faster way of breeding?

by the time i have scouted and found some ai horses worthy of breeding, put them together then realise i need a mare of my own or stallion of my own, found one of similar quality and raced or

trained the rest of my race team of 23 years! too much time has passed in real time!

i study analyse alot to make sure i have proper breed lines similar distance class/potential qualities etc

do pj and rest breed any other way? faster way?

does it always take so many hours of game time? and waiting seasons for each and every foal? which id count as many hours!

then only to find out the foal born is wrong sex you wanted! or crap potential /less/below than expected / desired



at same time i find ive found more enjoyment from the horse you thought was only a group3 horse but seems to grow and improve each season and unexpectedly wins group 1s :D that feeling cant be

beat! and what makes SO5 so enjoyable!

more satisfaction when a horse with only 3/4 potential bar grows improves to 5/6 potential bar! lol


Q. can we breed a full potential bar horse from say a group 3 + handicapper? breeding does seem so random? so far i havent breed much due to lack time.

Q. is it true that 2 full bar group 1 horses dont always breed full bar foals or group 1 quality foals? i suspect this..

at end of each season i have spent millions on horse expecting them to be the next Shergar or SeaTheStars only to open their bars and see they are donkey Eeor jackasses! lol ;)

i have downloaded some of exp players like pj's monsters and have had fun for a season or 2 but that enjoyment is less compared to

say to the surprise donkeys in game who i dont expect nothing from lol and wins races i just cant believe!



is there any more obvious way to spot monsters before they race at sales?

weight? colour? form notes mentions?

or during their careers even when you do notice one? can we buy them?

i ask because yes ive found some ingame ai horses who obviously are winning prolifically alot races or group prizes but even if i spot them early how can acquire / buy monsters? i havent seen any on Fridays Sales! :)



i also noticed so far any of the few really good foals ive breed start of say 90% as 2yold and fill their speed/stamina bars only at 3 yolds after racing few times is this regular or?

can people breed foals with full speed from day 1 possibly?



does mixing sprinters say 5f 6f with 1m2 1m4 etc give good or balanced mix foal? is there any point in mi

or should we only breed 5f with 5f 1m4 with 1m4f?

if sire A has full speed and broadmare B has full stamina will this pass on exactly to the foal? = full speed stamina? i doubt it!


im breeding for fun and own games offline only.

breeding advice?

how many stallions broadmare recommended in a breeding save/game?

can we breed en masse in 1 game and swap to others?

in my main game save play through season im on season 25 i think


in my breeding year 2 only! all my super potential foals are unborn, born 1yolds! , 2yolds unraced etc so far! by the time their hatched and ready i will be well past bedtime in real!

is there a better speedier more efficient way of breeding with the Race Builder /Horse Files?

or does it take months years of play to get those wonder monsters?


(i write alot on notepad before posting on sites for handiness but notepad seems to mess order and sentences up alot as im writing the cursor jumps moves alot messing sentence structures copying

pasteing etc.)

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The Australian cheat was the only way to improve times instantly but was rectified, it has been suggested that a league player used the cheat, by me.

I found out how to hex edit the horses speed/stamina, it was a trade-off though, you couldnt keep sprint speed and stay all day and you couldnt improve the overall ability but it meant that if you can get one good horse at a distance, you can have same class horses for any distance you want, including much further than you can possibly run in the CK.

This was in the last season that I wasnt involved in and I emailed Leon the same day I found out to tell him as I had read you couldnt hex edit now, after posting some pictures of the same horse running good times at every distance of course :lol:

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DocHay wrote:
The Australian cheat was the only way to improve times instantly but was rectified, it has been suggested that a league player used the cheat, by me.

I found out how to hex edit the horses speed/stamina, it was a trade-off though, you couldnt keep sprint speed and stay all day and you couldnt improve the overall ability but it meant that if you can get one good horse at a distance, you can have same class horses for any distance you want, including much further than you can possibly run in the CK.

This was in the last season that I wasnt involved in and I emailed Leon the same day I found out to tell him as I had read you couldnt hex edit now, after posting some pictures of the same horse running good times at every distance of course :lol:


Doc thanks for you openness about the above to me it is not very clear i am good with computers
but Know absolutely nothing When it comes down to programming

This really needs sorting out in SO6 so there is no way what so ever to cheat to make it impossible to cheat
We were all told that HEX editing was impossible in SO5 but now we hear it was now possible to cheat
when we were clearly told it was not possible leaves me puzzled and have to say very disappointed
its a bombshell

I Have no idea how HEX editing works but if this was possible and available to those who know how to Hex edit
really leaves a bad taste in the mouth if anyone used it in the league

It casts doubts over the whole situation i dont think i will bother with the lge anymore unless Mark can Guarantee it is 100%
cheat free and impossible to cheat in SO6 in anyway

I am NOT accusing anyone of anything but the fact this was possible is enough to put me off for good
& I have always defended the lge since i have been participating in last 3 seasons i defended it last week
when it kicked off about cheats being involved this season

Have to say very disillusioned and disappointed

hex editing
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A hex editor is a type of computer program that allows for manipulation of the fundamental binary data that constitutes
a computer file. The name 'hex' comes from 'hexadecimal': the standard numerical format for editing binary data. ..


Had to google it & the above definition says it all


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Interesting read hopefully I think the Ttf file thing shouldn't be allowed either as that makes the game more unrealistic if you can over years just keep bringing your best breeders back and start breeding with them again


Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:42 pm
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I did wonder how you could possibly get a horse that could run those times over a variety of distances, I didn't think it was possible so now we know why.

Appreciate you not entering the league after learning of this information Doc, I wasn't aware this was even possible after Mark shored up the loophole I knew about back in SO3 which was to do with a horses age.


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pjrhodes1970 wrote:
DocHay wrote:
The Australian cheat was the only way to improve times instantly but was rectified, it has been suggested that a league player used the cheat, by me.

I found out how to hex edit the horses speed/stamina, it was a trade-off though, you couldnt keep sprint speed and stay all day and you couldnt improve the overall ability but it meant that if you can get one good horse at a distance, you can have same class horses for any distance you want, including much further than you can possibly run in the CK.

This was in the last season that I wasnt involved in and I emailed Leon the same day I found out to tell him as I had read you couldnt hex edit now, after posting some pictures of the same horse running good times at every distance of course :lol:


Doc thanks for you openness about the above to me it is not very clear i am good with computers
but Know absolutely nothing When it comes down to programming

This really needs sorting out in SO6 so there is no way what so ever to cheat to make it impossible to cheat
We were all told that HEX editing was impossible in SO5 but now we hear it was now possible to cheat
when we were clearly told it was not possible leaves me puzzled and have to say very disappointed
its a bombshell

I Have no idea how HEX editing works but if this was possible and available to those who know how to Hex edit
really leaves a bad taste in the mouth if anyone used it in the league

It casts doubts over the whole situation i dont think i will bother with the lge anymore unless Mark can Guarantee it is 100%
cheat free and impossible to cheat in SO6 in anyway

I am NOT accusing anyone of anything but the fact this was possible is enough to put me off for good
& I have always defended the lge since i have been participating in last 3 seasons i defended it last week
when it kicked off about cheats being involved this season

Have to say very disillusioned and disappointed

hex editing
Web definitions
A hex editor is a type of computer program that allows for manipulation of the fundamental binary data that constitutes
a computer file. The name 'hex' comes from 'hexadecimal': the standard numerical format for editing binary data. ..


Had to google it & the above definition says it all


Paul I have had my doubts about certain things about so5 the times of horses doesn't add up, I did wonder how some people could have course records over every distance. For 6 months I put in as much time into my league as I could and yet never get close to course records, I had my doubts. I know people said hexing( I not 100% sure what it is) would show up but I've had my doubts. When u look at the files I did wonder if u got just a bit of experience in programs u could change them.

Just tried to open a horse file and this comes.
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Perhaps it easy, I'm with u if I have my doubts then I'm happy to quit the league. :cry:


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ghostzapper74 wrote:
pjrhodes1970 wrote:
DocHay wrote:
The Australian cheat was the only way to improve times instantly but was rectified, it has been suggested that a league player used the cheat, by me.

I found out how to hex edit the horses speed/stamina, it was a trade-off though, you couldnt keep sprint speed and stay all day and you couldnt improve the overall ability but it meant that if you can get one good horse at a distance, you can have same class horses for any distance you want, including much further than you can possibly run in the CK.

This was in the last season that I wasnt involved in and I emailed Leon the same day I found out to tell him as I had read you couldnt hex edit now, after posting some pictures of the same horse running good times at every distance of course :lol:


Doc thanks for you openness about the above to me it is not very clear i am good with computers
but Know absolutely nothing When it comes down to programming

This really needs sorting out in SO6 so there is no way what so ever to cheat to make it impossible to cheat
We were all told that HEX editing was impossible in SO5 but now we hear it was now possible to cheat
when we were clearly told it was not possible leaves me puzzled and have to say very disappointed
its a bombshell

I Have no idea how HEX editing works but if this was possible and available to those who know how to Hex edit
really leaves a bad taste in the mouth if anyone used it in the league

It casts doubts over the whole situation i dont think i will bother with the lge anymore unless Mark can Guarantee it is 100%
cheat free and impossible to cheat in SO6 in anyway

I am NOT accusing anyone of anything but the fact this was possible is enough to put me off for good
& I have always defended the lge since i have been participating in last 3 seasons i defended it last week
when it kicked off about cheats being involved this season

Have to say very disillusioned and disappointed

hex editing
Web definitions
A hex editor is a type of computer program that allows for manipulation of the fundamental binary data that constitutes
a computer file. The name 'hex' comes from 'hexadecimal': the standard numerical format for editing binary data. ..


Had to google it & the above definition says it all


Paul I have had my doubts about certain things about so5 the times of horses doesn't add up, I did wonder how some people could have course records over every distance. For 6 months I put in as much time into my league as I could and yet never get close to course records, I had my doubts. I know people said hexing( I not 100% sure what it is) would show up but I've had my doubts. When u look at the files I did wonder if u got just a bit of experience in programs u could change them.

Just tried to open a horse file and this comes.
Image
Perhaps it easy, I'm with u if I have my doubts then I'm happy to quit the league. :cry:


to be honest have just got more wound up the more i think about it IMO whole thing stinks
if its true that league officials knew about this ages ago & knew this was possible that is concerning
was it brushed under the carpet?

Bit surprised by the lack of response really very off putting for anyone looking to join in the future
the sad thing is this casts doubt over everything and everyone anyone could be cheating now
and anyone could have been cheating over the last 3 seasons to me that is unacceptable & hard to take
Big lesson learned.


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I'm a late starter to the league but I was putting in around 40 hours a week for 6 months into breeding my team and I went back to see the times of the course records and I was surprised how quick the times of the course records were from, really early on when SO 5 came out and how the same people dominated a game. I don't believe a few people could dominate a game, I love my cycling but I know if it looks to good to be true then it probably is.

I think if Mark cant change the file system then the League is finished. :cry:


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