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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
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 Re: CK & Trialing
update taken 3 quaters of a second off my best 6f time in 5 days which is far quicker than it took in so4 just down to 2 games with barn full of multiple g1 sprinters transfer and breed 
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:43 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
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 Re: CK & Trialing
5f 58.53 6f 110.92
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:19 pm |
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blazingbailey
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Joined: Wed May 25, 2011 2:29 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: CK & Trialing
I really dont see the point in having the stats in this game as they simply dont work as far as I am concerned. There is something 'under the hood' that effects performance which isn't determined by any of the stats we see. The reason I say this is because I have 3 5f horses who are all bred very closely (same sire & similarly related mares). They have the same initial stats, incredibly similar detailed stats, have the same running style yet run significantly different times. Horse 1 = 58.5, Horse 2 = 58.9 & Horse 3 = 59.4. Horse 1 and Horse 3 only have one difference and that is in 'cruising burst' where Horse 1 is one notch higher. Horse 2 has a slither less potential than the other two, as well as two notches less battling qualities but about half a bar more training adaption. I could understand why Horse 2 is slower than Horse 1, but why is he quicker than Horse 3!? I dont expect close relatives to all perform to the same level in real life (or in the game as such) but if your going to provide 'stats' then they have to be accurate. Although I have previously thought they might be pretty much useless for breeding, but this just confirms it for me. 
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:07 pm |
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keithbeaky
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:47 pm Posts: 2407 Location: UK
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 Re: CK & Trialing
I dont think they are useless. I have had several mares who had full potential who either never realised it, or even if they did they still were average in the game. However in the breeding barn they have helped produce three of my best horses over 1m2, 1m4 and 1m6. I am yet to try this with a stallion, currently have one now who has full potential but dont think his ability will ever match that. I am tempted to breed him with 5 mares quickly now and then another 12 over the next two seasons and see how he gets on.
Im sooooooo far behind with the times! Looks like I'll be in the lower band for the first season.
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Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:35 am |
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blazingbailey
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Joined: Wed May 25, 2011 2:29 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: CK & Trialing
keithbeaky wrote: I dont think they are useless. I have had several mares who had full potential who either never realised it, or even if they did they still were average in the game. However in the breeding barn they have helped produce three of my best horses over 1m2, 1m4 and 1m6. I am yet to try this with a stallion, currently have one now who has full potential but dont think his ability will ever match that. I am tempted to breed him with 5 mares quickly now and then another 12 over the next two seasons and see how he gets on.
Im sooooooo far behind with the times! Looks like I'll be in the lower band for the first season. Were these horses any good in the CK?
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Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:15 am |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
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 Re: CK & Trialing
having over the past 8 or 9 days playing & Trialing just for the lge i can tell you the new stat bars mean very little
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Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:07 am |
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blazingbailey
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Joined: Wed May 25, 2011 2:29 pm Posts: 149
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 Re: CK & Trialing
pjrhodes1970 wrote: having over the past 8 or 9 days playing & Trialing just for the lge i can tell you the new stat bars mean very little From what I have seen, the potential ability bar is the only one really worth noting but even then ones with 100% fulfilled potential might by complete nags in the CK.
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Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:28 pm |
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David1uk
Group 3 winner
Joined: Sun May 27, 2007 1:31 am Posts: 677 Location: Doncaster
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 Re: CK & Trialing
Anyone wanna post some NH times be nice to see where everyone is at here is afew of mine not sure these are good not done that many seasons
Cheltenham - Good
2m5h - 5.22.6 2m5c - 5.17.2 3mh - 6.16.8 3mc - 6.09.5 3m2c - 6.47.1 4m - 8.39.2
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Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:37 pm |
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keithbeaky
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Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:47 pm Posts: 2407 Location: UK
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 Re: CK & Trialing
blazingbailey wrote: keithbeaky wrote: I dont think they are useless. I have had several mares who had full potential who either never realised it, or even if they did they still were average in the game. However in the breeding barn they have helped produce three of my best horses over 1m2, 1m4 and 1m6. I am yet to try this with a stallion, currently have one now who has full potential but dont think his ability will ever match that. I am tempted to breed him with 5 mares quickly now and then another 12 over the next two seasons and see how he gets on.
Im sooooooo far behind with the times! Looks like I'll be in the lower band for the first season. Were these horses any good in the CK? They were better in the ck than they were in the game. They were listed/G3 in thhe game but the same level as multiple G1 winners in the ck. I've just done 2:32 with a 4yo over 1m4. Is thjat good?
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Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:27 am |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
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think you no the answer to that already Matt yes that is very quick i thought you were on a beach somewhere
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Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:39 am |
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keithbeaky
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:47 pm Posts: 2407 Location: UK
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 Re: CK & Trialing
That was a few weeks back. Teaching 9-11 and 3-5 Mon-Fri now. I haven't played much, about 2 hours a week. The 1m4 2:32.8 horse came from my 1m2 horse which was 5L better than anything id previously bred. He should start some good lines from 1m+ I hope.
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Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:52 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15187 Location: Republic of Ireland
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 Re: CK & Trialing
5f 59.47 7f 123.65
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Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:37 pm |
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davylad
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Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:47 am Posts: 481
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 Re: CK & Trialing
David1uk wrote: Anyone wanna post some NH times be nice to see where everyone is at here is afew of mine not sure these are good not done that many seasons
Cheltenham - Good
2m5h - 5.22.6 2m5c - 5.17.2 3mh - 6.16.8 3mc - 6.09.5 3m2c - 6.47.1 4m - 8.39.2 Haven't played NH all that much and I usually trial g/s Cheltenham, but here's my best times out of ten races. Cheltenham Good 2m5h - 5.16.91 2m5c - 5.17.39 3mh - 6.13.59 (best was 6.15.8 after 9 races) 3mc - 6.15.9
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Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:44 pm |
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akhc
Group 2 winner
Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:53 pm Posts: 860
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 Re: CK & Trialing
Didn't realise there was this thread here about times. A pictures says a thousand words. So here's two   Don't ask me what they run at 4 as I haven't run them at 4. I export to ttf.dat at the end of age 2. Then run them through halfway of season 3 and export for trial. Then move on to more breeding. FWIW I'm still at the stage where I'm breeding the next best thing as I believe there is more to be had. I suppose the only problem with the way I do this is I won't have any 2/4 year olds to run  but hey I'll settle for trying to win what I enter!
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Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:49 pm |
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leonvr
Group 1 winner
Joined: Wed May 14, 2008 2:50 pm Posts: 2485
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 Re: CK & Trialing
NH trials. Normally trial on good to soft and soft but ran some races on good
CHase 2m 3.50.8 2m5 5.16.4 3m 6.14 3m2 6.48.7 4m 8.37.3
Hurdles 2m 3.49.3 2m5 3.14.2 3m 6.09.8
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Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:05 pm |
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